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forty who fought real war infant welcome

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everyone to the California MUFON radio

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show I'm your host Lori in Fenton we're

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here on inception radio network the home

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of the most amazing app on the planet

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and we're also replayed over at

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late-night in the Midlands with Michael

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Farah and I'm not sure where else we're

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being replayed at this point folks but I

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do know there are several other networks

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out there replaying the show which I'm

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very thankful for ire and letting them

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do so and thankful to all the people who

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are trying to get the truth out there as

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we all know it so there you are so I

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hope you guys had a great week or two I

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haven't been here for a while and then

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when I did show up last oh it was the

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last week MJ I don't remember what it

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was I swear to God folks I had the

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wildest thing happened and it's so funny

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and my guess my my last guest on the

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show um last week I was really sick I

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think it was last week so many things

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have been going on I can't I can't even

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think about it anymore but the Russell

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Scott brine agur he sent me his books

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overlords of the singularity oh my god

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you guys I thought it was the phone book

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I sort of got I see this big package of

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the door and I'm like oh god what is

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that and I come home and there's this

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thing the size of a freaking phone book

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on my desk and it's his book and I can't

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wait to dig into it I don't know when I

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will have time to read the whole thing I

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mean it's literally four inches thick

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and so we'll figure it out but man he

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was a great guest and I got to tell you

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guys what happened I told this oh I'm on

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a new network - I'm over at K cor on

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Monday evening from 8:00 to 10:00 p.m.

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Pacific just so you guys are aware so if

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you want to catch more more the Fenton

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the Fenton truth is we're starting to

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call it then you guys head on over there

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and listen to me on Monday nights as

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well so I'd love to have you have you

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you know show up every where I'm at you

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know why not it's a party what look at

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I'd say it he has so the last time I was

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live on air Russell was on the show

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Friday ger and I made it all the way I

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well here's what happens at when the

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show started I reached I and they're

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sitting right here on my desk I'm

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looking at them I was getting over the

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cold and getting it again and going

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through this whole thing and I bought a

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bunch of Kobe's and I and I never have

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that taken cold-eeze before but they're

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these zinc lozenges that you take kind

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of like Zicam and there's pink ones and

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there's blue ones I was sitting here and

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I really hadn't read the label hadn't

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done anything I just threw them all on

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my desk and when the show started I kind

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of you know I'm sitting there you know

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doing my thing up at the lozenge in my

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mouth and I'm second it down and you

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know bid then an hour later just let's

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take him except for like every hour - I

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was kind of pushing because I wasn't

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feeling well I was having coffee and

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attacks and the whole bit and I thought

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I'll just make another one so I it was

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nine o'clock I took one at nine o'clock

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and then I'm sitting here doing this

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show listening to Russell I look at the

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clock and I know we got like four or

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three minutes left in the show and I I

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think oh god you know getting so tired I

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wonder what's going on I'll just listen

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to him I close my eyes and I listen to

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him for a second the next thing I know I

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startled awake I put my hand on the

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keyboard

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somehow I'd muted or disconnected from

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the network I'm not sure what happened

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but I probably was asleep for maybe a

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minute maybe a minute and a half I don't

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know but I do remember hearing his voice

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the whole time so I don't know if it was

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how you know how much it was folks I

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maybe a minute or two I don't know but

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all I knows when I woke up I'm like oh

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my god what happened and I'm like and I

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hit the keyboard and everything went

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awry and then I'm trying to talk to the

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network they obviously can't hear me and

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then I'm like trying to figure out what

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I did and I think i unmuted at that

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point and so they're like oh it's okay

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you know and Brussels just stopped

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talking so what I did I felt so bad

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there

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happen if I was like oh my god what have

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I done and I felt so terrible so the

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next day I recorded an end to the show

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and I sent it off to Joe and I'm like

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sorry it was just it was so crazy folk

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so I get a Warren yet there is valerian

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there's a whole bunch of Sleepy 80

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products in this cold East and it's blue

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which means night and you think I would

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have figured that out but I had wasn't

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paying any attention of course and so

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just if you're on radio folks don't

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start taking nyquil

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when you're trying to do a live radio

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broadcast because it certainly isn't

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gonna help you any baby yeah so that's

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what happens so you guys are wondering

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why the abrupt end of the show last week

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and if I don't know if Joe ever got that

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recording put on the end but and yeah I

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hope you guys were we're like oh my god

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she just got knocked off the air so

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there you are okay so you know we're not

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we're not perfect here at California

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move on radio by far from it anyhow so

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I'm not taking these until the show is

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over tonight I will not be chewing on

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damn I will not be swallowing them

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nothing's gonna come up these little

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things here on the desk and I'm gonna

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I'm gonna click them together so you

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guys know I really have this yeah so um

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I you know I usually talk a lot longer

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the see me and I was gonna talk a little

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bit about some other subjects that have

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come up this last week for me but I have

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cracked camera Don with me tonight so I

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just want to talk briefly about you know

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you guys I you know as you all know I

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have a real hard time with the whole Tom

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DeLonge thing when it first came down

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the pike I was like oh my god what is

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going on and as a person has been in the

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community for you know quite some time

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now I've been active in the community

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only since 2010 11 ish but I've been a

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new FRG person you know I'm not a major

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research

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stretch of the imagination but I do know

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how to go to the library and I do know

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how to do research because of other

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parts of my life and I don't rely on

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YouTube as my research which is really

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making me insane that's the one thing

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that's going on out there right now

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folks you know real researchers know how

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to get a hold of people how to get

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information how to take that information

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put it all together and build the pieces

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of the puzzle into a clear picture so we

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can understand what's going on with

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whatever community you're involved in

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and that's what a real researcher does

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that's what an investigative journalist

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does that's what a you know I'm an

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author who's trying to give you

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information that is poignant to the

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point well researched as a beginning in

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the middle and an end and they're trying

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to give you something that makes sense

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and has a conclusion oh my god if I told

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you guys how many bad books I've read in

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the last five years where there's no

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reason for them to have written the book

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in the first place

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nothing's researched no footnotes I have

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no idea where anything came from I have

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no idea where their sources are I have

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no idea why they're even writing these

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books and that and that just makes me go

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insane I mean literally go nuts

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I can't handle it and I'm the first one

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to say hey I don't know the answer to

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something so I'm gonna you know I'm

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gonna sit back and I'm gonna just take

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in the information and i'ma sit here if

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it takes five years 10 years 15 years 20

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years for me to hear the next person say

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the same thing and then if it takes

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another five years ten years whatever I

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don't open my mouth about anything until

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three people has told me the same thing

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and the three people have to not know

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each other have to live in different

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parts of the world or the country at

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least they have to be different ages

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they have to have a completely different

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background they have to be so far

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removed from each other that they can't

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contaminate each other's story that's I

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wouldn't take three stories from three

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people that go to UFO conferences all

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together and see each other know their

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each other I would just have to take

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that as well you know one of them told

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the story maybe the other one dreamed

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that you know me you know you just don't

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know

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once it's contaminated like that you

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can't use it and I just get so upset

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with these people who just take you know

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all these stories at face value run with

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them and then we're sitting here going

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you know what what now having said that

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I have to apologize to all of you

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because I do that on my show here what I

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do is I bring on people who have amazing

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stories and I can't verify if any of

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them are true or not all I can tell you

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is that I bring them on because I want

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you to get this information get the same

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amount of information hear their stories

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just like I do wherever I go whatever

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I'm doing so that you know five years

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from now you guys can say feastin didn't

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I hear that on Lorient show didn't she

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have this guy that was a contact to you

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that said he saw you know this robot the

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foot of the bed hey I have a friend who

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just saw something like that or you know

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whatever that's why I bring them on and

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that was my whole point of this besides

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the fact that Greg Cameron is probably

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one of the best researchers out there

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right now he actually knows his stuff he

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knows what he's doing and he does the

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real work and there's the few others out

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there that are still doing amazing work

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but you know you guys it's really hard

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to come by people like grant they just

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they don't exist anymore

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you know everybody's relying on YouTube

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and the internet for their research and

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it's just not the same anyhow what I'm

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trying to say here is I do bring on

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people that I cannot verify their story

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I can't tell you guys if any of its real

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I just find it fascinating to get as

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many stories out there as I can on this

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show and it's fascinating to me the the

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amount of different different types of

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stories that the UFOs and the aliens are

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creating within humanity I mean you guys

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if you listen to all these people over

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the years I've been on this network and

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the different type of people I brought

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on and the amount of different different

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different stories that come

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it's mind-boggling I mean I can go

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another ten years and we probably never

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had the same type of story twice I mean

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it's really mind-boggling how complex

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how different how shape to each person's

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experience and just how their

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consciousness interacts with these these

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contacts or abductions or whatever you

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want to call them how they all they all

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play the out for each person they plant

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for each person very differently and I

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can't judge their their experience I

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can't sit here and say oh it didn't

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happen you know or give me proof or you

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know maybe you better do more research

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or you know I can't do that

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all I can do is listen let them say what

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happened you know it's kind of like my

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sister the one that that speaks with me

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still she thought it was pretty funny I

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mentioned something to her about this

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last Christmas and she goes yeah you're

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like a priest in the confessional god

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yeah that really is it you know people

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come in and they get they get to

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unburden themselves and then they get to

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you know do the two hours of penance on

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the radio show and then they feel better

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yeah it's it's pretty wild so anyhow but

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it's like into that you know it's like

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you know people come on my show a lot

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though they'll come on once and then

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you'll never hear them again you know

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why because they have to tell their

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story and someone actually let him talk

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about it you know that's 90% of the

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battle as I say here on the show this is

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the last part of what I'm going to say

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tonight you guys got to get to your

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MUFON meetings you know this is really

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this is why I do this show this is why

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it happens this is what I'm all about is

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that you guys get to these meetings and

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you find each other and you tell each

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other what's going on with you you know

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eventually we're gonna come across we're

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gonna come across the answer on how and

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why this is all happening I think grant

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is giving very close I think the people

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in South America with the Zen drehs are

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getting very close

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there's and that's been going on for

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some time and grant and I'll talk about

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that a little bit here at the beginning

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of the show but anyhow there's just you

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know the answers are coming folks

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I know they are I know because there's

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just way too many of us putting the

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stories of what's happened to each one

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of us and they're very different you

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know my contact is not anybody else's

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contact I can tell you that and the

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things I've seen I've only run acrost

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and all the the time I've been doing

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this for or five other people that had

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anything close to my experiences so not

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to say they're special or do you know

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anything special they're just different

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you know they're different for all of us

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and that's the whole point of it anyhow

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so I need you guys to get to those MUFON

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meetings it's really really important it

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you guys have got to talk about this

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it's got to come out in the open they

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told me these aliens or angels or

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whatever I'm dealing with so the only

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reason I'm on the air has nothing to do

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with me that's for darn sure or they

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would I would have been making money

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hand over fist doing this it's all about

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you guys it's about who's hearing my

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voice and understanding what I'm trying

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to tell you that you guys have got to

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get out there and tell your stories and

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if you've never had contact and you're

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so interested into this subject you've

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got to start asking yourself why you're

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so interested in the subject because the

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deeper down the rabbit hole I go I find

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there's nobody interested in this

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subject that isn't having something

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extraordinary happening to them at some

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level so just remember that okay that's

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one of the things that I'm really

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finding out the deeper I go we're all

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having some kind of contact or we all

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won't be listening to this show we will

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be listening to the network we will be

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listening to you know coast we won't be

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listening art Bell we would never have

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got involved in any of this if there

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wasn't a reason for it and there's some

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kind of entity or angel or reptilian or

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gray or something back there behind all

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this

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because there's no reason for you guys

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to even think about this so think about

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that why do you even think about it

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unless it's in your consciousness unless

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there's something there driving you on

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okay or maybe maybe it's just that

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you're you're aware of it on a spiritual

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level and you just need to have other

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people that are aware of it too you know

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it could be that simple

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but whatever it is get to those MUFON

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meetings it's super super important it's

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most important thing that I do on this

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network all week and all my shows is

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tell you guys get to the meetings find

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each other and get out there and spread

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the word that this is a this is real and

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we're gonna eventually get to the point

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we're gonna be able to make contact with

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them in in the open and some type of

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disclosure is gonna happen I'm not sure

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what it is and cranny I'll talk about

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that just a moment but something's gonna

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happen it's gonna happen sooner than

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later like definitely guarantee you guys

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that anyhow okay that's enough for this

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evening on anything I've got to say

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grant are you with me

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yes I am thanks for the kind words USN

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dejected do I send the check to the same

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place that sent the last one you know

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the thing is grant I'm just I'm getting

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more disgusted in my old age with

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everybody in the community you know I

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hate to say it but you're one of the few

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people left standing I even want to talk

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to you I know you're coming from right

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now it's it's like and and what really

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bothers me is I'm starting to think a

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lot of them are making stuff up now in

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line you know I really am you know if

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you're a year after year on that stage

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with a new book in hand where's this

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information coming from that's what I

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want to know yeah yeah so yeah well

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let's get on to what we're here for

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tonight and we got a lot of things to

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cover let's start with disclosure and

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Tom DeLonge let's start with that whole

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thing now I don't know if many of you

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have followed this but Tom DeLonge has

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announced that he is going to be mr.

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disclosure but he's also announced quite

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a few other things that came along to

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the stars Academy if I remember

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correctly he had to pronounce it and I

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don't know how many of you followed it

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but grant can you tell people in a

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nutshell what Tom DeLonge did at that

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press conference they held and what you

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took away from that press conference

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let's just

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there okay well he I guess we should

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actually go to the most important part

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and that is how it all got set up

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because people tom is putting it out

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like 'is the sort of the big maestro and

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he's running the whole show and people

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have to know and I keep pointing us out

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but nobody really listens is the fact

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that he was set up that he was invited

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to a barbecue at Lockheed skunkworks to

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introduce the president and he said okay

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I'll do it but if I do I need to talk to

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the president for five minutes and so

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they bring him in and this is a setup

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this is the hook this is what they

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always do they bring him in they know

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he's interest in UFOs they know he has

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this major conspiracy website where he's

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putting stuff on that he knows it isn't

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really true they know the whole

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background on him and so he has this

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five-minute conversation with the

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president he doesn't really say anything

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he doesn't use the word I should say but

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he says I've got a proposition I got a

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plan and the guy says yeah okay and so

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they allow him to come up to area 51 to

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Lockheed they goes into this secure

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facility and he's talking to the I think

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the head scientist and one other guy the

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head guy isn't there yet and he

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basically goes through his his spiel

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about you know how the aliens are here

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in the cargo cult and that's where

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religions come from and that all

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religions are caused by UFO sightings

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and the religions are fighting with each

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other because aliens are hitting one

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religion against another and that's his

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basic theory so he puts this out and

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then they confront him about the his

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website his conspiracy website and he's

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trying to defend why he had this website

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about all these you know things that I

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on there and the the head guy comes in

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and they basically once he finishes the

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cargo cult they basically say we've got

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someone we want you to meet and he is

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sent to Washington DC and he encounters

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two people from the AI from the CIA and

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those two guys send him to NASA he meets

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somebody at NASA

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that guy sends them to the west coast to

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gain to a NASA facility there he meets a

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general and they basically set up this

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whole thing so he goes from person to

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person and this whole team of people are

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set up who are going to help him on his

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mission his mission is to disclose and

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to sell lots of books and make movies

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and make lots of money at this this

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whole thing so that's big

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I wouldn't interject one thing what

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people don't understand is that the

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history of what's happened in mythology

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is very important about what grants

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talking about right now because the same

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thing happened with the Rockefeller

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initiative when Linda Moulton Howe

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Steven Greer the list goes on and I

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can't remember all the names of all the

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people they're met with David

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Rockefeller back in God was it 92 well I

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can't remember what year was yeah

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Lourdes Rockefeller yeah Laurance

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Rockefeller maybe 77 I just can't

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remember for the life of me what your

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that happened but I see the picture

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plainly in my head of that they took of

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the group photo and there is like

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everybody knew ethology was there at the

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time and they all became anointed as the

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people and you know follow Gaea that

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we're gonna carry forward with we're

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gonna disclose you know this is you know

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they were now the gurus of our community

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and we didn't vote him in this happened

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many times happen first would Bill Moore

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back in NASA he put out the the Roswell

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book the the Roswell incident that was

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before anybody knew Roswell's existed he

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puts out the Roswell incident and he's

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contacted the same thing the hook there

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was he gets phone call from Albuquerque

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New Mexico after he starts the the the

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book tour and it's after the show

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there's a phone call comes in at the end

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of the show he takes it off air and it

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says here the only guy knows what you're

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talking about and Bill Moore was a very

533
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smart guy but he had a big ego and he

534
00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:03,389
basically said yeah that's true he

535
00:22:05,690 --> 00:22:05,190
basically I mean no guy knows what I'm

536
00:22:07,580 --> 00:22:05,700
talking about

537
00:22:09,769 --> 00:22:07,590
and then he contains the book to her and

538
00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:09,779
he gets a phone call from a guy who I've

539
00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:12,299
actually identified now he was a guy he

540
00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:13,790
was

541
00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:15,470
everybody always talks about this Falken

542
00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:17,480
thing the guy was he phoned from Offutt

543
00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:21,560
Air Force Base and he was which was

544
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:25,190
called Richard Dodie's defense

545
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:29,120
intelligence guy in Washington DC and I

546
00:22:34,530 --> 00:22:31,010
think Brad sparks identified who this

547
00:22:43,030 --> 00:22:34,540
guy was he was saying a former or he was

548
00:22:47,610 --> 00:22:45,760
yeah Navin Naval Intelligence let me

549
00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:47,620
think I've got to get it right here

550
00:22:52,810 --> 00:22:49,790
Defense Intelligence Agency he was

551
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:52,820
Defense Intelligence Agency okay and his

552
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:54,530
name Evans I think it's name was Evans

553
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,210
he was ill advised leftenant colonel and

554
00:23:00,040 --> 00:22:58,880
the strange thing about that is and that

555
00:23:01,330 --> 00:23:00,050
one sort of escaped everybody even

556
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:01,340
though I've a lot couple of lectures

557
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:02,720
I've actually mentioned the fact that

558
00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:05,090
this guy is is the guy that made the

559
00:23:08,410 --> 00:23:06,800
initial phone call to Bill Moore and

560
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:08,420
said you're the oh god no sir you're

561
00:23:13,390 --> 00:23:10,190
talking about and we want to meet with

562
00:23:16,030 --> 00:23:13,400
you and so this Evans guy and dodi meet

563
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:16,040
with with Bill Moore and they basically

564
00:23:19,930 --> 00:23:17,450
do the same thing they give them all

565
00:23:21,370 --> 00:23:19,940
these these contacts and we're gonna set

566
00:23:24,430 --> 00:23:21,380
you up you're gonna be the disclosure

567
00:23:26,650 --> 00:23:24,440
guy and Bill Moore goes out and and has

568
00:23:29,050 --> 00:23:26,660
what becomes known as the famous Avery

569
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:29,060
where he gives everybody bird names he

570
00:23:33,730 --> 00:23:31,760
and Jamie Shandra who was his partner a

571
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:33,740
film producer guy out of Los Angeles

572
00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:36,110
they give all these guys bird names so

573
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:37,910
they can talk about them when they're

574
00:23:41,410 --> 00:23:39,410
talking on the telephone so nobody knows

575
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:41,420
who these people are so they is there's

576
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:44,570
the Condor and the Falcon and you know

577
00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:47,600
all DC the penguin is John Alexander and

578
00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:49,790
the the Pelican is Ron Pandolfi and

579
00:23:53,290 --> 00:23:51,950
everybody kicked green is the blue jay

580
00:23:55,930 --> 00:23:53,300
and all these people have these these

581
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:55,940
names and you know grant at this point

582
00:23:59,980 --> 00:23:58,400
we should kind of rap out when this

583
00:24:01,450 --> 00:23:59,990
started because it started with John

584
00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:01,460
well it didn't start with John Alexander

585
00:24:06,910 --> 00:24:04,190
but John Alexander was the first guy the

586
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:06,920
first meeting who created the the Avery

587
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:09,170
is that well as I know I was working

588
00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:11,690
group no it was I but you see it was it

589
00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:13,430
was actually just Bill Moore giving

590
00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:16,340
these people names bird names and most

591
00:24:21,130 --> 00:24:17,900
of these people like I talked to for

592
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:21,140
example I talked to Scott Jones who was

593
00:24:25,030 --> 00:24:23,120
always rumored to be the a the the

594
00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:25,040
Falcon he was a very powerful he was the

595
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:26,800
guy that helped brief

596
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:29,090
Clinton science advisor with rockefeller

597
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:34,400
it's a very very high-level guy and he I

598
00:24:39,550 --> 00:24:36,290
remember when they when Bill Moore

599
00:24:40,150 --> 00:24:39,560
claimed who the Falcon was that in later

600
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:40,160
on

601
00:24:45,970 --> 00:24:44,690
have to worry anymore you're not the

602
00:24:47,770 --> 00:24:45,980
unit you're not the anymore and

603
00:24:49,270 --> 00:24:47,780
he said oh I've had about three or four

604
00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:49,280
different bird names so none of these

605
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:50,630
guys really knew what their bird name

606
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,970
was only only Bill Moore and Jamie SH

607
00:24:57,490 --> 00:24:55,760
and Ray knew who the actual it was just

608
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,500
a thing that they had but it sort of

609
00:25:02,650 --> 00:24:59,360
became a cult thing where all these guys

610
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:02,660
knew that they had bird names and what

611
00:25:09,670 --> 00:25:06,010
they were were people inside

612
00:25:11,950 --> 00:25:09,680
intelligence the government military who

613
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:11,960
had at one point in their career run up

614
00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:13,850
against the UFO phenomena so for example

615
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:15,830
Kate green is an example KITT green

616
00:25:21,370 --> 00:25:18,290
round the weird desk at the CIA from 70

617
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:21,380
from 69 to 83 and he was known as the

618
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:25,010
Blue Jays and then he was a contractor

619
00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:26,720
for the CIA so he left the CIA retired

620
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:28,550
and he's still doing contract work for

621
00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:31,850
the CIA and he was he was very

622
00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:34,520
interested in contacting these other

623
00:25:37,390 --> 00:25:36,230
guys because everybody had a piece of

624
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,400
the puzzle like John Alexander had a

625
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:38,960
piece of the puzzle Scott Jones had a

626
00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:40,970
piece of the puzzle and that was the

627
00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:42,560
story I was told for example about kid

628
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:44,630
green this guy was a physiologist he

629
00:25:47,650 --> 00:25:45,440
said he's a doctor

630
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:47,660
and he always was trying to get briefed

631
00:25:52,090 --> 00:25:50,690
on the alien autopsy and he could not

632
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,100
get briefed so he knew a lot of stuff

633
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:53,840
about a lot of stuff but the thing that

634
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:55,010
he really wanted to know the alien

635
00:25:58,930 --> 00:25:57,050
autopsy stuff he wasn't he was never

636
00:26:01,600 --> 00:25:58,940
given a clearance to know what was going

637
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:01,610
on so these guys are all there and this

638
00:26:06,910 --> 00:26:04,400
this initial guy one of the things that

639
00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:06,920
people they sort of don't really realize

640
00:26:12,850 --> 00:26:08,870
is were a lot of the documents we have

641
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:12,860
for example this Defense Intelligence

642
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:15,170
guy who initially contacted bill Moore

643
00:26:20,530 --> 00:26:17,450
in 1980 when the book der starts there

644
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:20,540
he writes the Roswell's incident which I

645
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:22,130
think sold a million copies was big

646
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:26,300
selling book and he phones him and this

647
00:26:32,350 --> 00:26:29,360
guy was the guy who wrote the report on

648
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:32,360
the Iranian jet fighter incident where

649
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:34,610
the the jet fighters is going to

650
00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:37,190
scrambled and all the stuff is shut down

651
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:38,540
in this

652
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:41,210
in the jet fighter where you sitting

653
00:26:43,930 --> 00:26:42,710
here this is the guy that wrote the

654
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:43,940
report and most people don't know that

655
00:26:48,010 --> 00:26:46,070
and the other thing that that happened

656
00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:48,020
that he was was he was the guy who

657
00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:51,470
leaked the documents about the NORAD

658
00:26:57,250 --> 00:26:54,560
site that sort NORAD stuff in 1975 when

659
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:57,260
I had my first sighting all the Nora

660
00:27:00,880 --> 00:26:59,090
there was the NORAD document I remember

661
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:00,890
Bob Pratt the National Enquirer showing

662
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:03,590
him to me back at that time and these

663
00:27:07,390 --> 00:27:05,360
were documents that they had been given

664
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,400
alert on and and the National Enquirer

665
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:09,200
forced them out but it was it was this

666
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:13,970
guy this office this defense

667
00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:15,890
intelligence guy who actually leaked

668
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:17,390
those documents so everybody knows about

669
00:27:20,620 --> 00:27:19,010
the documents and nobody ever thinks

670
00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:20,630
about it like where did that document

671
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:22,520
come from it was actually leaked so bill

672
00:27:27,910 --> 00:27:25,010
Moore starts this process in 1980s and

673
00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:27,920
he's got these Avery guys and they start

674
00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:30,260
feeding him material and what I say

675
00:27:33,910 --> 00:27:31,550
they're doing every other managing

676
00:27:36,190 --> 00:27:33,920
distort aren't they already brought

677
00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:36,200
together by John Alexander John

678
00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:38,360
Alexander as a theoretical working group

679
00:27:46,210 --> 00:27:42,190
though right I'll get to that in a sec

680
00:27:47,890 --> 00:27:46,220
okay so he starts in 1980 and and John

681
00:27:50,890 --> 00:27:47,900
is just one of the guys he's the the

682
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:50,900
Pelican that's that's his that's his no

683
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:52,610
he's the penguin John Alexander I

684
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:54,410
believe was the penguin although bill

685
00:27:57,790 --> 00:27:56,330
Moore's never confirmed who was who but

686
00:27:59,290 --> 00:27:57,800
he was known as the the penguin so he

687
00:28:02,200 --> 00:27:59,300
was one of the sources that bill Moore

688
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:02,210
was using and he had like coal man he

689
00:28:07,630 --> 00:28:04,970
had you know Pandolfi kid green Ron

690
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:07,640
Pandolfi there was there was 24 these

691
00:28:14,980 --> 00:28:13,130
people there was a huge list of nodody

692
00:28:16,990 --> 00:28:14,990
everybody always said he was the Falken

693
00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:17,000
but he wasn't the Faulk and he played

694
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:20,120
the Falcon on a documentary in 1988

695
00:28:24,550 --> 00:28:22,730
which was called UFO cover-up live and

696
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:24,560
this was the document rarity said this

697
00:28:27,730 --> 00:28:25,910
is the worst documentary in the world

698
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:27,740
they were reading off cue cards and all

699
00:28:31,390 --> 00:28:30,050
this kind of stuff and they were and

700
00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:31,400
that was because it was being run by

701
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,590
grabber ties it was a CIA front company

702
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,600
and this is Ronald Reagan doing a

703
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:37,520
disclosure he was dropping a bunch of

704
00:28:42,670 --> 00:28:39,710
material into the UFO community this is

705
00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:42,680
October of 1988 two weeks before Reagan

706
00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:44,870
the election before Reagan leaves office

707
00:28:49,570 --> 00:28:47,390
and they basically that's when the area

708
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:49,580
51 idea is introduced it's on a

709
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:50,510
flowchart

710
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:52,310
on that documentary if you look

711
00:28:57,310 --> 00:28:54,410
this UFO cover-up live you'll see a

712
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:57,320
flowchart and it shows area 51 well Bob

713
00:29:02,050 --> 00:28:59,360
Lazar would not come public until the

714
00:29:04,780 --> 00:29:02,060
spring of the next year so before Bob

715
00:29:06,910 --> 00:29:04,790
Lazar ever went on to the base that was

716
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:06,920
in a flow chart on UFO cover-up live the

717
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:08,650
other thing was on the flow chart was a

718
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:12,550
parapsychology research unit at the

719
00:29:16,810 --> 00:29:15,110
Defense Intelligence Agency and that's

720
00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:16,820
on the flow chart and that would not be

721
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:20,060
declassified till 1995 when Ron Pandolfi

722
00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:22,310
would get control of it at the CIA would

723
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:23,870
grab it away from the Defense

724
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:25,940
Intelligence Agency get it to the CIA

725
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:28,190
and then make it disappear or go into

726
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:30,050
the black world he shut down the remote

727
00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:31,430
viewing program but that the remote

728
00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:33,620
viewing program was on this 1988

729
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:36,230
documentary so all this stuff was sort

730
00:29:42,430 --> 00:29:39,200
of put out there and and leaked so bill

731
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:42,440
starts this in 1980-81 he gets the idea

732
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:45,290
of mj-12 there's these documents and all

733
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:47,450
the documents are phony but they all

734
00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:49,730
point to the fact that mj-12 was for

735
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:51,830
real and so they altered documents and

736
00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:54,890
there are actually most people to

737
00:29:57,850 --> 00:29:56,270
realize every cell of the mj-12

738
00:30:01,210 --> 00:29:57,860
documents real but what they don't

739
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:01,220
realize is there were 3,700 pages of

740
00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:02,960
documents and most of these documents

741
00:30:10,930 --> 00:30:08,180
were investigated by Bob wood and Ryan

742
00:30:13,450 --> 00:30:10,940
wood his son and that quarter a quarter

743
00:30:15,340 --> 00:30:13,460
million dollars was put up by joel

744
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:15,350
fuhrman to research those documents and

745
00:30:19,060 --> 00:30:16,640
they up they started to leak in the

746
00:30:20,590 --> 00:30:19,070
1990s so there was thirty seven hundred

747
00:30:21,790 --> 00:30:20,600
pages of documents so this is not and

748
00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:21,800
people said well it's Richard Doty he's

749
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:23,390
behind the mj-12 and I say absolute

750
00:30:29,170 --> 00:30:25,750
garbage come on Richard Doty was gone in

751
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,180
1986 or 87 at the latest he was gone in

752
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:31,520
87 and these documents didn't start

753
00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:33,290
leaking until five years later this was

754
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:35,240
an organization you don't have one guide

755
00:30:39,970 --> 00:30:37,970
leaking 3,700 pages of documents and so

756
00:30:41,860 --> 00:30:39,980
this is what they did so bill Moore

757
00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:41,870
starts it he creates this Avery with

758
00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:44,630
these 24 guys and these guys start to

759
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:47,420
recycle so they all realized this might

760
00:30:50,770 --> 00:30:49,310
just my impression they all realize

761
00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:50,780
there's these other guys so they realize

762
00:30:54,010 --> 00:30:52,550
you know that there's other people have

763
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,020
these clearances and they get to know

764
00:31:01,529 --> 00:30:56,240
each other and they start as sort of an

765
00:31:07,229 --> 00:31:03,749
70% off at Banana Republic factory

766
00:31:10,019 --> 00:31:07,239
stores and online and 60% off absolutely

767
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:10,029
everything at Yap factory stores save

768
00:31:14,669 --> 00:31:12,369
even more with 40% off clearance at Gap

769
00:31:17,369 --> 00:31:14,679
factory stores and at Banana Republic

770
00:31:21,299 --> 00:31:17,379
factory sweaters start at $19.99 and

771
00:31:23,129 --> 00:31:21,309
scarves start at $9.99 hurry search our

772
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:23,139
store locator for your nearest Gap

773
00:31:29,099 --> 00:31:25,330
Factory and Banana Republic factory

774
00:31:30,539 --> 00:31:29,109
store or shop us online early they're

775
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:30,549
talking back and forth with each other

776
00:31:36,289 --> 00:31:32,169
and they're all they're all like trying

777
00:31:39,019 --> 00:31:36,299
to figure out what's going on so in 1985

778
00:31:41,609 --> 00:31:39,029
John Alexander who's one of the Avery

779
00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:41,619
starts a group and he said this was just

780
00:31:45,149 --> 00:31:43,929
personal interest and I actually was I

781
00:31:46,830 --> 00:31:45,159
think I was the one that I actually put

782
00:31:50,219 --> 00:31:46,840
out the document that said it was a

783
00:31:51,749 --> 00:31:50,229
top-secret restricted program and that

784
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:51,759
was the same classification it was on

785
00:31:56,999 --> 00:31:54,159
the mj-12 document and it was at a it

786
00:32:00,509 --> 00:31:57,009
was at a secure facility in Virginia and

787
00:32:02,849 --> 00:32:00,519
he was always called the the New York

788
00:32:04,649 --> 00:32:02,859
Times put out a book called they talked

789
00:32:08,729 --> 00:32:04,659
about it about it was the UFO working

790
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:08,739
group so when I got the one document

791
00:32:13,529 --> 00:32:11,710
that that was the cover page of it I put

792
00:32:16,919 --> 00:32:13,539
just enough the cover page to prove that

793
00:32:19,259 --> 00:32:16,929
I had the document on a lecture that I

794
00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:19,269
did in Eureka Springs and it was at that

795
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:21,779
lecture that Tim good came up to me and

796
00:32:26,609 --> 00:32:24,369
so did George Wingfield who worked on

797
00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:26,619
crop circles in the early days and they

798
00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:29,950
said and they said they said and I

799
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:31,720
showed all the names or except for two I

800
00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:33,129
took two of the names off but I showed

801
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:35,320
about 18 of the names of the people that

802
00:32:39,419 --> 00:32:37,690
were in in this what was called the

803
00:32:41,099 --> 00:32:39,429
advanced physics theoretical working

804
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:41,109
group thank you I can never remember the

805
00:32:44,879 --> 00:32:43,210
whole time I think and and the reason

806
00:32:47,369 --> 00:32:44,889
they called it that according to John

807
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:47,379
was they didn't wanted fy8 a suppose so

808
00:32:50,339 --> 00:32:48,609
everybody's gonna do nfie

809
00:32:52,229 --> 00:32:50,349
so you don't put UFOs he called the

810
00:32:54,930 --> 00:32:52,239
advanced physics theoretical working

811
00:32:57,450 --> 00:32:54,940
group so I put just enough on this chart

812
00:32:58,259 --> 00:32:57,460
on one of the slides to show that that

813
00:33:01,109 --> 00:32:58,269
sort was called

814
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:01,119
and then suddenly Tim good approaches me

815
00:33:04,739 --> 00:33:02,559
and so does Wingfield right after the

816
00:33:05,999 --> 00:33:04,749
lecture and says you showed some names

817
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:06,009
because only showed the names for like

818
00:33:10,619 --> 00:33:08,440
two seconds it's so much no but nobody

819
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:10,629
copped him down and they said you showed

820
00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:13,450
some names of a group could we get the

821
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:15,160
names I said yeah sure you get things

822
00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:16,870
so I give him the names and then

823
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:19,240
suddenly I get a phone call from hell

824
00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:21,730
put off who's now part of the time the

825
00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:24,340
long operation right and he'll contacts

826
00:33:27,690 --> 00:33:26,260
me into hell almost never contacts me I

827
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:27,700
mean how's the busy guy he's doing his

828
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:29,890
thing whatever and so he'll contacts me

829
00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:32,260
he says oh I understand you've got a

830
00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:34,870
list of a list of names of a group that

831
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:36,820
I was supposed to be part of and I said

832
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,890
yeah I do and he said could I could I

833
00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:40,720
get the list I said yeah sure so I sent

834
00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:42,160
him all the lists except for the the

835
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:44,740
same two names I took off yeah I sent it

836
00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:45,970
to him and I never heard anything more

837
00:33:52,410 --> 00:33:49,030
about it but I think George I guess

838
00:33:54,030 --> 00:33:52,420
everybody had gone to him and like Tim

839
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:54,040
good had gone to him and asked were you

840
00:33:57,810 --> 00:33:55,570
part of this group and then John

841
00:33:58,860 --> 00:33:57,820
Alexander goes public and he said oh it

842
00:34:00,360 --> 00:33:58,870
was called the advanced physics

843
00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:00,370
theoretical working group and nobody had

844
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:02,830
notes so then my Lex next lecture I put

845
00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:04,630
out the fact I said oh and I got the

846
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,470
notes too sure it was I was called the

847
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:10,000
best is exterior Attica working group

848
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:11,050
and nobody was supposed to have notes

849
00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:13,990
and you and I both we were discussing

850
00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:15,960
before we had a big meeting in Laughlin

851
00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:18,760
that we have to sort of release that

852
00:34:26,909 --> 00:34:25,150
that Melinda Leslie and Randy have been

853
00:34:28,919 --> 00:34:26,919
working on this for 25 years I didn't

854
00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:28,929
realize this until a couple months ago

855
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,100
last month when they noted we know to be

856
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:34,960
to be really honest about the whole

857
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:37,450
thing I think it's 28 years plus that

858
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:38,890
they've been working on it and I've

859
00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:41,410
known Melinda now for 10 years and her

860
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:43,960
and I started talking about it for the

861
00:34:48,870 --> 00:34:47,169
minute we met so I got fed in and I

862
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:48,880
already knew yeah I knew quite a bit

863
00:34:53,130 --> 00:34:50,950
about it which was quite surprising to

864
00:34:55,140 --> 00:34:53,140
me and I didn't know that you were the

865
00:34:57,090 --> 00:34:55,150
person I had gotten all that information

866
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:57,100
from through the grapevine but anyhow I

867
00:35:01,170 --> 00:34:58,930
think right yeah but go ahead and and

868
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,180
she had she had had she had the notes as

869
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:02,560
well she doesn't she didn't have the

870
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,270
cover page I've got the cover page which

871
00:35:08,970 --> 00:35:06,400
shows the classification and and the

872
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:08,980
advances she's got all the notes and she

873
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:11,280
got him from this friend of hers Edie

874
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:14,320
Hulk or whatever did that that she has

875
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,750
notes and I haven't compared them yet I

876
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:17,920
saw the notes and it looked like the

877
00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:19,810
same notes I had so it's basically

878
00:35:23,810 --> 00:35:22,750
handwritten notes of different subjects

879
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:23,820
that they brought up

880
00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:26,210
and I know that some of the notes

881
00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:30,420
indicated for example on the one subject

882
00:35:34,580 --> 00:35:32,280
they discussed like cattle mutilations

883
00:35:36,110 --> 00:35:34,590
they discussed abductions and so you'd

884
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:36,120
have a page and have abductions on the

885
00:35:39,740 --> 00:35:37,290
top and there would be a couple of notes

886
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:39,750
and some of the at the know some of the

887
00:35:43,070 --> 00:35:41,130
notes I had indicated that those

888
00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:43,080
subjects hadn't come up yet but the one

889
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:45,990
that had the back-engineering on UFOs

890
00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:50,250
had Billy Ray Billy Ray Bobby Raymond's

891
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:52,620
name on there and she's always been

892
00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:54,810
rumored to be the the guy that was the

893
00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:57,300
guy that was back in charge of

894
00:36:02,810 --> 00:35:59,460
back-engineering of flying saucers

895
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:02,820
he worked at SAIC and this is on the

896
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:05,370
notes I have so Melinda had the same

897
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:07,680
notes as I had basically it was taken by

898
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,450
a different person my guy is a different

899
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:11,040
guy than hers but she gave a lot of

900
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:12,900
support to the fact that John did have

901
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:15,300
this group and so what happens is you

902
00:36:19,070 --> 00:36:17,640
have this same group so these guys are

903
00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:19,080
interested what's going on so then you

904
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:20,940
get all these guys like Ron Pandolfi

905
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:23,160
shows up at that meeting kate green

906
00:36:28,070 --> 00:36:25,110
shows up at the meeting he'll put off is

907
00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:28,080
there Bob wood is there all the same

908
00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:30,840
characters as the Avery and they cycle

909
00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:32,760
through John Alexander's group because

910
00:36:35,330 --> 00:36:34,350
if you're John Alexander and you want to

911
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:35,340
know what's going on

912
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,930
you're gonna bring in the Avery because

913
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:38,880
these are the guys that have had the

914
00:36:44,090 --> 00:36:41,130
interaction with with the UFO phenomena

915
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:44,100
the same as they reappear again when Bob

916
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:46,260
Bigelow sets up knits if you look at

917
00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:49,110
this group it's the same group they he

918
00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:51,390
guys and he brings a ministry point

919
00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:53,670
they're now adding Colin Kelleher and a

920
00:36:57,260 --> 00:36:55,950
few other people but maybe yeah and

921
00:36:59,240 --> 00:36:57,270
that's the thing so that's the thing is

922
00:37:00,650 --> 00:36:59,250
you you you get these guys and you you

923
00:37:02,570 --> 00:37:00,660
if you want to know what's going on

924
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:02,580
these guys have been through the cycle

925
00:37:07,580 --> 00:37:04,500
and they bring them in and now you see

926
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:07,590
here again comes up Tom DeLonge and who

927
00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:10,560
do you see Jacques Vallee you see John

928
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:13,320
Alexander's name you see how put off you

929
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:16,410
see kit green yeah it's the same group

930
00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:20,250
of guys again and and they all just want

931
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:22,440
to know what's going on for example I

932
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:25,110
was looking at the whole contact cuz I

933
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:27,210
had known he'll put off for a number of

934
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,110
years I really haven't had that much

935
00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:29,760
contact I would ask him for example

936
00:37:34,370 --> 00:37:32,190
because there was no UFO FILES and in

937
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:34,380
the White House I went to him because

938
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:36,690
he's guy did remote viewing and I wanted

939
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:37,410
to know I

940
00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:39,510
viewing files in the Whitehouse either

941
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:42,840
so I want to clarify the fact that just

942
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:44,130
because there's no files doesn't mean

943
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:45,690
the president isn't breached so I

944
00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:48,390
contacted help put off and I said did

945
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:49,860
the president get briefed on remote

946
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:53,250
viewing and he said up to Bush vice

947
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:55,650
president yes and I guess after that he

948
00:37:58,460 --> 00:37:56,820
left the program he didn't say but he

949
00:38:00,320 --> 00:37:58,470
said up to that point I can confirm yes

950
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:00,330
the president was briefed and that would

951
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,920
confirm that just because there's no

952
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:04,320
documents in the in the in the archives

953
00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:05,910
doesn't mean that the president wasn't

954
00:38:10,250 --> 00:38:08,100
briefed on the subject and so I would

955
00:38:11,780 --> 00:38:10,260
contact hell back and forth over the

956
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:11,790
years on little things like that I just

957
00:38:17,570 --> 00:38:14,010
asked me to say yes no that that sort of

958
00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:17,580
stuff but here you have him and and all

959
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:19,830
these guys that that have been involved

960
00:38:23,450 --> 00:38:22,110
even the if you're familiar with the the

961
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:23,460
in the UFO community there's this famous

962
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:26,550
story called the core story and that was

963
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:28,710
a meeting that took place with these

964
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:30,360
Avery guys it was it was helped put off

965
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:33,240
and it was Jack valet and it was kid

966
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:35,610
green in this famous meeting that took

967
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:38,370
place at Denny's restaurant in 1987 and

968
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:40,290
what they did is they sat down and said

969
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:41,730
there's a lot of rumors a lot of stuff

970
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:44,010
going on in the UFO community what do we

971
00:38:46,730 --> 00:38:45,300
know for sure and this is what became

972
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:46,740
known as the core story what do we know

973
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:48,690
for sure there has been a visit there

974
00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:50,490
have been visitations there have there

975
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:54,180
has been at least three 1940s 1970 or 80

976
00:39:00,590 --> 00:38:58,170
and 1990s there was a visit and there

977
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:00,600
was there was a there was a crash and

978
00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:02,250
there's been some back-engineering

979
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:04,020
that's all we know and that's became

980
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:06,090
known as the core story the basic core

981
00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:08,610
story of ufology and again it's these

982
00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:11,160
it's these guys and to me people see

983
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:13,320
them as this you know a government group

984
00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:14,970
to me that they're not a government

985
00:39:20,090 --> 00:39:16,980
they're just a bunch of guys who I used

986
00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:20,100
to call them mj-12 too because I had an

987
00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:22,680
interaction with with with one who was

988
00:39:26,540 --> 00:39:24,630
connected he was he knew all of them

989
00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:26,550
he had been with knids he wasn't really

990
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:28,980
an Avery guy but he was there when all

991
00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:31,110
the Avery was there and and he was he

992
00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:32,580
was having these conversations with

993
00:39:36,350 --> 00:39:34,740
presidents and about the what was called

994
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:36,360
the Holloman Air Force Base film this is

995
00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:38,970
the story of where they land a craft at

996
00:39:42,110 --> 00:39:40,260
Holloman Air Force Base that's filmed

997
00:39:43,850 --> 00:39:42,120
from five different angles up in the air

998
00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:43,860
there's a helicopter and stuff and this

999
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:45,060
becomes Close Encounters of the Third

1000
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,250
Kind this movie this documentary goes to

1001
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:49,440
Steven Spielberg he turns it into Close

1002
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:50,970
Encounters of the Third Kind

1003
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:52,650
they just remove it from the air force

1004
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:54,690
base to this mountain thing it's all

1005
00:39:59,630 --> 00:39:56,490
predicted people are filming it's all

1006
00:40:01,550 --> 00:39:59,640
you know it's all predicted and so

1007
00:40:03,650 --> 00:40:01,560
they're trying to track to help put off

1008
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:03,660
and this guy are trying to track down

1009
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:05,040
the Holloman Air Force Base filming

1010
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:06,450
because I did a lot of work on I knew

1011
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:08,700
Bob Emma Nagar who had the film at one

1012
00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:14,730
time I think his name right yeah oh my

1013
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:16,350
god because I used to lecture it yeah

1014
00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:18,510
your Springs every year and I would go

1015
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:19,800
to his house and I would interview him

1016
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:22,170
and Bob was he was like a straight

1017
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:24,270
shooter he just had no interest

1018
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:26,190
whatsoever in you elbows none it was

1019
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:28,530
like my story is true they called me in

1020
00:40:34,490 --> 00:40:31,980
to Norton Air Force Base in 1973 I think

1021
00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:34,500
it was he was working for the Nixon

1022
00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:35,790
re-election campaign he was an

1023
00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:38,040
advertising executive he knew Bob

1024
00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:40,230
Haldeman he'd gone to school used in Bob

1025
00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:42,990
Haldeman he knew the communications guy

1026
00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:45,480
in the Nixon White House he'd gone he

1027
00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:47,670
was in the Air Force with him so he had

1028
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:50,070
these connections to Nixon and he gets

1029
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:51,960
brought in with Allen Sandler his

1030
00:40:56,930 --> 00:40:55,170
partner and they they that's when he

1031
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,940
doesn't believe in UFOs he thinks he's

1032
00:41:00,800 --> 00:40:58,560
what I was telling the story he said

1033
00:41:02,510 --> 00:41:00,810
Margaret his wife was really into it she

1034
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:02,520
knew everything backwards and forwards

1035
00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:04,290
and he said Margaret reading that

1036
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:07,230
garbage the alien has my baby stuff and

1037
00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:09,150
then he gets the Norton Air Force Base

1038
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:13,080
and they say this 1973 and Emma Nagar is

1039
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:15,570
the intelligence guy Emma's got contacts

1040
00:41:20,210 --> 00:41:18,150
the FBI and CIA and stuff and he sets up

1041
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:20,220
the meeting and they're to do these

1042
00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:22,950
documentaries on 3d holography working

1043
00:41:28,670 --> 00:41:26,190
with dolphins all these kind of defense

1044
00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:28,680
programs and there's do these eight

1045
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:31,080
documentaries and then Paul shuttle

1046
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,850
who's the guy who's briefing them says

1047
00:41:36,590 --> 00:41:34,560
and we'd also like you to do this UFO

1048
00:41:38,990 --> 00:41:36,600
documentary and we'd like you to hide it

1049
00:41:41,780 --> 00:41:39,000
under the other documentaries and Bob

1050
00:41:43,490 --> 00:41:41,790
said are you kidding me are you telling

1051
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:43,500
me this is for real he was like shocked

1052
00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:45,690
I mean is suddenly his wife is right and

1053
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:47,640
it's like are you kidding me and that's

1054
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:49,890
when Cheryl says what would you say if

1055
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:51,330
we told you that we it was a landing at

1056
00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:53,610
Holloman Air Force Base in May of 1971

1057
00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:55,470
and it was filmed from different angles

1058
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:56,940
and stuff like that six o'clock in the

1059
00:42:01,520 --> 00:41:58,530
morning and he's given all the details

1060
00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:01,530
of who was there and all this sort of

1061
00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:04,830
stuff and so they they get this film and

1062
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:06,030
it's pulled to the last minute they're

1063
00:42:09,740 --> 00:42:07,770
doing the documentary and it's the last

1064
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:09,750
minute they pull the film they say it's

1065
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:13,680
yeah this is where I lose touch with

1066
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:15,570
that whole story right at that point

1067
00:42:20,750 --> 00:42:18,030
they pulled the thumb were they so good

1068
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,760
to use pieces of that film in their real

1069
00:42:24,290 --> 00:42:22,800
documentary they were they were told

1070
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:24,300
that they would be allowed by Bill

1071
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:26,940
Coleman who who is apparently just died

1072
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:29,910
and Bill Coleman who was the public

1073
00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:32,220
relations officer for Blue Book and they

1074
00:42:36,350 --> 00:42:33,990
had gone to the the Pentagon to the

1075
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:36,360
e-ring that the power around here and

1076
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:39,210
they told me or Bob told me that they

1077
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,560
would walk into the Pentagon they would

1078
00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:42,000
not even sign in they just walk right in

1079
00:42:46,310 --> 00:42:43,980
and they would have these meetings with

1080
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:46,320
with and they were given this film by

1081
00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:48,210
Coleman and they were told they could

1082
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:50,700
use it and at the last minute they said

1083
00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:54,290
that they said it's the white it's the

1084
00:42:59,450 --> 00:42:57,420
the what it's Watergate we've got

1085
00:43:01,400 --> 00:42:59,460
trouble it's not the right time we have

1086
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:01,410
to pull a film and Bob said there was

1087
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:03,510
these two very heavyset people in this

1088
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:06,150
small little tiny Datsun who had put the

1089
00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:07,680
film canisters in the backseat in

1090
00:43:12,170 --> 00:43:09,900
California at Norton and they were they

1091
00:43:15,490 --> 00:43:12,180
drove this thing back to the Pentagon so

1092
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:15,500
when the film came out they did like

1093
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:18,330
artist renditions of this landing thing

1094
00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:20,370
and they told us okay and it was like

1095
00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:21,990
you know this may have happened in the

1096
00:43:25,820 --> 00:43:23,790
past or it may it may have actually it

1097
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:25,830
may and it may happen in the future in a

1098
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:27,570
me acts Yap it happened in the past and

1099
00:43:30,380 --> 00:43:29,010
then suddenly I discovered there was

1100
00:43:33,290 --> 00:43:30,390
eight seconds of the film in the

1101
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:33,300
documentary so I go back really and I

1102
00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:36,330
said yeah grant I just got in ripped for

1103
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:37,950
a second all these years I thought that

1104
00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:40,170
was faked because I couldn't find

1105
00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:42,540
anybody to verify that there was any

1106
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:45,540
real footage in that documentary it was

1107
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:47,220
eight seconds yeah and so I went to Bob

1108
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:48,810
good friends with Bob

1109
00:43:55,580 --> 00:43:53,250
so I said Bob I said there's eight

1110
00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:55,590
seconds of film in there and he goes

1111
00:43:59,960 --> 00:43:58,680
yeah and I said I thought you told me

1112
00:44:01,790 --> 00:43:59,970
they took the film back and he told me

1113
00:44:03,980 --> 00:44:01,800
all story about these guys he's heavyset

1114
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,990
people in this small tiny dodson driving

1115
00:44:07,850 --> 00:44:05,520
across the country with this thing and I

1116
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:07,860
said but Bob there's eight seconds of

1117
00:44:12,730 --> 00:44:11,130
film in the documentary and he said well

1118
00:44:14,990 --> 00:44:12,740
it was just background and I said

1119
00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:15,000
background what you mean was background

1120
00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:16,440
and he said well he

1121
00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:18,870
didn't show anything and it made total

1122
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:20,430
sense so they gave they allowed them to

1123
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:22,650
use the eight seconds and what you see

1124
00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:24,510
is you see this light coming over the

1125
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:25,950
horizon it's coming there's a mountain

1126
00:44:28,820 --> 00:44:27,810
thing and you hear they got the voice

1127
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:28,830
they're putting the voice you know

1128
00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:31,410
identify yourself and you say this light

1129
00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:33,390
crossed and the whole thing is the

1130
00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:35,640
classified part is when it lands when

1131
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:37,260
you can see the aliens and you can

1132
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:38,730
actually see the craft up close that's

1133
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:40,380
classified it doesn't mean that's why

1134
00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:41,700
they're saying its background because it

1135
00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:43,020
does really mean anything you just see

1136
00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:44,670
this right this thing and you can

1137
00:44:47,150 --> 00:44:45,630
actually see if you watch the

1138
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:47,160
documentary you can tell her the eight

1139
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:49,410
seconds are is it's a clip and then clip

1140
00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:51,030
and it clips again and it goes back out

1141
00:44:54,620 --> 00:44:53,190
into another frame you can tell that

1142
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:54,630
it's actual footage they've stuck in

1143
00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:56,970
there so he confirmed to me that this

1144
00:45:00,740 --> 00:44:58,680
was there and there was a bunch of stuff

1145
00:45:02,750 --> 00:45:00,750
that they were they were basically given

1146
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:02,760
for example there's a story that I had

1147
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:07,380
that they had all this footage and so I

1148
00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:09,450
said to him that they had the one with

1149
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:11,700
the the famous film where they launch

1150
00:45:17,090 --> 00:45:14,910
from Vandenberg Air Force Base the thing

1151
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:17,100
goes up and these two UFOs go around the

1152
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:19,410
craft and they sort of this little beam

1153
00:45:23,390 --> 00:45:20,910
into it and it falls into the Pacific

1154
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:23,400
Ocean yeah and and he describes that

1155
00:45:27,590 --> 00:45:25,530
except the thing about the beam getting

1156
00:45:29,150 --> 00:45:27,600
shot with the beam but everything else

1157
00:45:32,090 --> 00:45:29,160
they've got and he's describing this

1158
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:32,100
thing and they he described this guy

1159
00:45:35,330 --> 00:45:33,810
that did the analysis vide was a guy

1160
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:35,340
from Blue Book we'd done the the

1161
00:45:41,180 --> 00:45:38,490
analysis the early analysis for the

1162
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:41,190
Robertson panel this is expert and there

1163
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:43,200
was no way this was this was a natural

1164
00:45:46,610 --> 00:45:44,610
object near all this sort of

1165
00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:46,620
verification and then I talking to Bob

1166
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,420
and again he's like he's watching the

1167
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:49,920
comedy channel he's no interest in you

1168
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:52,710
opposed and I said so so you you had to

1169
00:45:56,090 --> 00:45:54,210
send a Holliman film did you send all

1170
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:56,100
the older film bacne and did you send

1171
00:46:01,100 --> 00:45:57,690
that film back with the with the launch

1172
00:46:06,190 --> 00:46:01,110
and he goes yeah I don't know I

1173
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:08,900
and he said yeah it was top secret it

1174
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,710
had top secret on the cannister Ned

1175
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,720
Quintanilla's name on it they had a blue

1176
00:46:16,910 --> 00:46:14,880
book and I said Ella's got it and he

1177
00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:16,920
said I don't know I'll have to check

1178
00:46:20,330 --> 00:46:18,660
and then he checked and he said yeah

1179
00:46:23,570 --> 00:46:20,340
Ellen's got it he's got it in his in his

1180
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,580
vault and I go what so I tell Angela

1181
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,960
Joyner when she would this is when

1182
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:26,400
Stevensville broke I was good friends

1183
00:46:30,350 --> 00:46:28,410
Angela right and that's all agile I said

1184
00:46:32,270 --> 00:46:30,360
Angela we gotta get

1185
00:46:34,070 --> 00:46:32,280
film we gotta get this film this film

1186
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:34,080
they've got this top-secret film of this

1187
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:35,970
lunch where this these UFOs are around

1188
00:46:40,460 --> 00:46:38,220
it and they've got the film and so then

1189
00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:40,470
she talks to Bob and they're there and

1190
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:43,260
and Alan was a real woman womanizer and

1191
00:46:49,010 --> 00:46:45,570
he wandered her to fly to Oregon to look

1192
00:46:51,590 --> 00:46:49,020
at this film and it said go and look at

1193
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:51,600
this film so she never did do it and

1194
00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:53,430
then she told James Fox

1195
00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:55,560
so James Fox found out about the film

1196
00:47:00,080 --> 00:46:57,900
and he went Ted to Sandler and then

1197
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:00,090
negotiate started I won't say what's

1198
00:47:03,290 --> 00:47:01,650
happened but if you ever talked to James

1199
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,300
you can ask him where it is but I know

1200
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:05,280
he was negotiating he was negotiating to

1201
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:09,330
put this in 701 and Alan as Bob Emma

1202
00:47:13,310 --> 00:47:11,700
nigger's wife we used to tell me he was

1203
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:13,320
as dumb as a bag of hammers

1204
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:14,970
but if you gave him a stick and a piece

1205
00:47:17,810 --> 00:47:16,260
of gum he'd come back at the end of the

1206
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:17,820
day with a pile of money he was just

1207
00:47:21,470 --> 00:47:19,290
really good and so he was like he was

1208
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:21,480
negotiating and I had heard there was

1209
00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:23,910
big figures to just look at the film and

1210
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:25,740
stuff like that but Fox was trying to

1211
00:47:30,410 --> 00:47:27,900
get it there's confirmation that they

1212
00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:30,420
actually have a top secret film that

1213
00:47:35,090 --> 00:47:32,670
they did not hand back for a blue book

1214
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:35,100
thing top secret with Quintanilla's name

1215
00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:40,650
on the canister so near each other I

1216
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:43,020
might drive over one day and say okay

1217
00:47:49,940 --> 00:47:48,720
buddy you've been holding out on me at

1218
00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:49,950
one point it sounded like he wasn't

1219
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:52,740
getting very far with it but but he and

1220
00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:54,570
he did have a backer at a big backer for

1221
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:57,060
701 at one point and then the guy pulled

1222
00:48:00,440 --> 00:47:58,770
out you know and so I don't know if he's

1223
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:00,450
got the money that he can sort of throw

1224
00:48:06,830 --> 00:48:04,850
at this thing but anyway that was so and

1225
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:06,840
so there was all sorts of initiatives

1226
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:09,480
that have gone down over the years Bob

1227
00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:12,810
even told me the one story where he got

1228
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:14,430
the phone call from Ron Pandolfi and I

1229
00:48:18,290 --> 00:48:16,710
go in you got a phone call from Dolphy

1230
00:48:20,060 --> 00:48:18,300
because he's not interested you mean he

1231
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:20,070
just has no interest in UFOs whatever

1232
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:21,810
like and they'll just ask him like

1233
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:23,370
that's where I said to him I said you

1234
00:48:27,740 --> 00:48:24,930
know I'm at his place he's watching that

1235
00:48:29,570 --> 00:48:27,750
the comedy channel and his and his wife

1236
00:48:31,070 --> 00:48:29,580
is you know really into UFOs and we're

1237
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:31,080
talking whatever but he just sits there

1238
00:48:34,070 --> 00:48:32,490
and he doesn't say anything whatever and

1239
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:34,080
then he'll sort of get really critical

1240
00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:36,240
and she'll say Oh Bob you just shut up

1241
00:48:38,780 --> 00:48:37,620
you've never had a book what do you know

1242
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:38,790
and then he just sort of quietens down

1243
00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:41,610
he just sits there and so I said that's

1244
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:43,230
what I said to him I said Bob you know

1245
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:44,040
the weird

1246
00:48:50,090 --> 00:48:47,310
thing was you know if it weren't for if

1247
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:50,100
it weren't for the location that

1248
00:48:53,420 --> 00:48:51,900
Holloman her first film sounds exactly

1249
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:53,430
that Close Encounters and that's when he

1250
00:48:59,240 --> 00:48:56,280
said oh I didn't tell you and they said

1251
00:49:01,220 --> 00:48:59,250
no you didn't tell me what I didn't tell

1252
00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:01,230
you I gave a copy to Spielberg and I go

1253
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:03,060
no you didn't tell me that and he said

1254
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:05,400
well I told you any Spielberg his sister

1255
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:08,010
worked as a line producer for me we did

1256
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:10,020
all these documentaries on hypnosis and

1257
00:49:13,460 --> 00:49:12,210
and near-death experiences and stuff

1258
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:13,470
like that she was a lion producer and

1259
00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:15,570
she said Steven would like a copy of the

1260
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:16,350
documentary

1261
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:21,570
future came out in 1975 Close Encounters

1262
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:23,400
came out in 1977

1263
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:26,010
so Annie takes a copy of Close

1264
00:49:32,090 --> 00:49:29,610
Encounters of the Third Kind Holloman

1265
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:32,100
Air Force Base documentary to Steven

1266
00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:35,370
Spielberg and then after the Close

1267
00:49:40,940 --> 00:49:38,670
Encounters was was filmed according to

1268
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:40,950
Bob she he said that that Spielberg's

1269
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:43,050
mother had come to him and said Oh Bob

1270
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:45,090
I've seen your version of landing and

1271
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:46,680
I've seen Stephens version of landing

1272
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:50,910
and I like Stephens version better has

1273
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:52,560
all these stories and it's just so many

1274
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:54,240
stories that you know I go there and and

1275
00:49:58,070 --> 00:49:56,220
every time it'll be something any oh I

1276
00:50:02,240 --> 00:49:58,080
know you know he just doesn't care he

1277
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:02,250
just but amazing sort of career and like

1278
00:50:07,130 --> 00:50:04,740
he got I could get offered in 83 it was

1279
00:50:09,590 --> 00:50:07,140
the same thing they like they did this

1280
00:50:12,140 --> 00:50:09,600
documentary in 75 they dropped a bunch

1281
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:12,150
of stuff in this documentary about for

1282
00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:13,920
example the channeling of the alien at

1283
00:50:18,020 --> 00:50:16,200
the CIA and I knew this was a true story

1284
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,030
because the Canadians had worked had

1285
00:50:21,860 --> 00:50:20,460
worked with this woman and Bob friend on

1286
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:21,870
this documentary you can actually look

1287
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:24,960
it up on the internet it's it was redone

1288
00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:28,680
in 1979 and was called UFOs it has begun

1289
00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:31,950
and in that document god great you know

1290
00:50:36,410 --> 00:50:33,540
that's one of my favorite movies we

1291
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:36,420
played it at our UFO Con last year in

1292
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:38,430
our film festivals our favorite movie

1293
00:50:44,090 --> 00:50:41,970
yes you see Bob friend they're talking

1294
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:44,100
and he's doing this whole thing with

1295
00:50:48,140 --> 00:50:46,530
with the the channeling of the alien at

1296
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:48,150
the at the National photographic

1297
00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:52,050
interpretation Center yeah which was

1298
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,060
this top-secret building in Washington

1299
00:50:58,410 --> 00:50:56,400
that was in the slums of Washington DC

1300
00:51:00,509 --> 00:50:58,420
and all the people all the whole

1301
00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:00,519
and the homeless people that were in the

1302
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:02,140
area used to think that they were

1303
00:51:05,009 --> 00:51:03,700
printing money in the building because

1304
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:05,019
there was so much security on this

1305
00:51:09,779 --> 00:51:07,210
building and was where they analyzed all

1306
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:09,789
the u2 and sr-71 and the spy photographs

1307
00:51:13,049 --> 00:51:11,650
and they put it in the worst part of

1308
00:51:14,279 --> 00:51:13,059
Washington so the Russians would never

1309
00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:14,289
find it that they would the last place

1310
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:15,670
they'd they'd look for this thing and

1311
00:51:22,769 --> 00:51:18,930
that's where they what happens is in

1312
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:22,779
1954 there's a woman that's that's a

1313
00:51:28,019 --> 00:51:25,750
channeling an alien by name alpha

1314
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:28,029
she lives in Elliot Maine just down the

1315
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:30,960
street from Betty Hill and she is

1316
00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:33,609
interesting yeah and she's channeling

1317
00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:35,470
this and the Canadians are using her as

1318
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:37,180
a source so the Canadians are going down

1319
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:39,250
there Wilbur Smith around the Canadian

1320
00:51:42,059 --> 00:51:40,750
program was going down there they were

1321
00:51:44,910 --> 00:51:42,069
getting the information from her and

1322
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:44,920
doing these channeling sessions and navy

1323
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:46,690
intelligence was watching you CIA was

1324
00:51:50,579 --> 00:51:49,089
watching her Air Force was watching her

1325
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:50,589
everybody was watching this woman and

1326
00:51:54,329 --> 00:51:52,900
even Secret Service they had sent a

1327
00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:54,339
thing to the Secret Service to the

1328
00:51:59,370 --> 00:51:57,640
president about her and so she was she

1329
00:52:02,279 --> 00:51:59,380
was doing this channeling thing and Navy

1330
00:52:03,809 --> 00:52:02,289
intelligence saw her in 54 and then

1331
00:52:05,819 --> 00:52:03,819
these two guys in the cover story was

1332
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:05,829
they went there to get flying time so

1333
00:52:10,170 --> 00:52:07,750
these two Navy intelligence guys one was

1334
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:10,180
connected to the CIA fly to Elliott main

1335
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:12,609
to talk to her and they they're there

1336
00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:14,079
she's doing the channeling thing and

1337
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,369
they're asking questions and stuff like

1338
00:52:18,059 --> 00:52:16,720
that and then she says well why don't

1339
00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:18,069
you just sit down and watch you do it

1340
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,460
and so they sit down the one guy sits

1341
00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:23,440
down that his name was Nisha and she

1342
00:52:27,029 --> 00:52:25,150
puts his hand on his right shoulder and

1343
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:27,039
suddenly this guy starts this automatic

1344
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:29,170
writing thing which is the same thing

1345
00:52:35,579 --> 00:52:30,250
these Endre guys are doing it's this

1346
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:35,589
automatic right these two Navy

1347
00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:37,210
intelligence guys get all excited and

1348
00:52:42,299 --> 00:52:39,640
they go racing off and they go back to

1349
00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:42,309
the CIA in Washington and they go to

1350
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:44,380
Arthur London and this is where you get

1351
00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:47,170
in this you see this this recycling of

1352
00:52:51,690 --> 00:52:49,319
stuff so right now the guy that runs the

1353
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:51,700
UFO desk or the weird desk is Ron

1354
00:52:58,349 --> 00:52:54,910
Pandolfi he's running since 1983 before

1355
00:53:00,269 --> 00:52:58,359
him was KITT green from 69 to 80 from 83

1356
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,279
and before KITT green was a guy a man

1357
00:53:04,799 --> 00:53:02,559
named Arthur Lundell and Arthur landahl

1358
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:04,809
was was the guy who briefed Kennedy on

1359
00:53:09,690 --> 00:53:06,460
the Cuban Missile Crisis he was a

1360
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:09,700
photographic expert he was the the guy

1361
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:10,960
that did all the analysis of the

1362
00:53:16,140 --> 00:53:12,250
Robertson

1363
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:16,150
UFO films and he ran a navy lab and that

1364
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:18,730
the CIA took them and he created the CIA

1365
00:53:22,890 --> 00:53:21,490
lab which analyzed all the YouTube sr-71

1366
00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:22,900
it was called the National photographic

1367
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:24,070
interpretation Center

1368
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:27,910
so he's I gotta throw this out what

1369
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:29,770
about Hawkeye works or whatever it was

1370
00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:33,660
called over at the Kodak plant in Rock

1371
00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:35,740
Neely New York

1372
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:37,990
what is the town that's in god I just

1373
00:53:43,380 --> 00:53:41,440
just left me Rochester Rochester New

1374
00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:43,390
York the CAA Hawkeye works where they

1375
00:53:48,089 --> 00:53:46,630
developed a Zapruder film does it play

1376
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:48,099
into this at all do you I don't have

1377
00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:49,930
never have never heard that no oh I'll

1378
00:53:54,750 --> 00:53:51,790
talk to you about it off here later okay

1379
00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:54,760
yes all right so so anyway they they go

1380
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,369
there and art LUN doll is this guy he's

1381
00:54:02,040 --> 00:53:59,440
fascinated in fact one of the

1382
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:02,050
connections I had with with help put off

1383
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:04,810
was because I knew this connection that

1384
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:06,730
there is these there's a guy inside the

1385
00:54:12,420 --> 00:54:10,240
CIA who's like the the Fox Mulder guy I

1386
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:12,430
mean and he's the UFO guy and he's the

1387
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:14,890
parapsychology guy and ghost guy and

1388
00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:16,450
it's all phenomenology they don't call

1389
00:54:20,579 --> 00:54:18,430
UFOs to call it phenomenology so Arthur

1390
00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:20,589
Lundell was the first guy and I had a

1391
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:23,830
collection of his writings he had

1392
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,810
written the UFO letters to people like

1393
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:28,000
James McDowell and people like that so I

1394
00:54:35,609 --> 00:54:31,050
had this collection of Arthur lund dolls

1395
00:54:38,099 --> 00:54:35,619
letters and I said I guess somehow I'll

1396
00:54:39,690 --> 00:54:38,109
put off found out he said I understand

1397
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:39,700
you got a collection of letters mark

1398
00:54:44,849 --> 00:54:41,320
Blundell I said yes I do

1399
00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:44,859
I got a copy of those letters because he

1400
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:48,190
knew the connection he was CIA is a very

1401
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:53,710
in fact whether it's KITT green or he'll

1402
00:54:58,109 --> 00:54:56,050
put off he'll put off was the guy ran

1403
00:55:01,230 --> 00:54:58,119
the remote viewing program in the 70s

1404
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:01,240
for the CIA and and and KITT Green was

1405
00:55:05,339 --> 00:55:03,010
the control officer for this for the

1406
00:55:08,790 --> 00:55:05,349
remote viewing program from the CIA they

1407
00:55:11,570 --> 00:55:08,800
apparently have potentially the longest

1408
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:11,580
held top-secret special ask us

1409
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:13,450
clearances in the country there's

1410
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:16,030
nobody's had a top-secret SDI clearance

1411
00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:17,200
longer than them because they've had it

1412
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:19,420
since the 60s so that's a long time you

1413
00:55:24,690 --> 00:55:21,250
got to realize that he'll put up like in

1414
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:24,700
his 80s and this top-secret security

1415
00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:25,609
clearance for

1416
00:55:30,970 --> 00:55:29,150
that long so he knew he probably knew

1417
00:55:33,069 --> 00:55:30,980
lund all he probably had talked to him

1418
00:55:34,660 --> 00:55:33,079
about UFOs and stuff I got so he asked

1419
00:55:36,970 --> 00:55:34,670
me for these for these letters and I

1420
00:55:38,890 --> 00:55:36,980
yeah sure I sent him a copy of all these

1421
00:55:40,479 --> 00:55:38,900
this correspondence that lund all had

1422
00:55:41,799 --> 00:55:40,489
had with with various people where he

1423
00:55:43,930 --> 00:55:41,809
would actually refer to it as the most

1424
00:55:46,749 --> 00:55:43,940
important subject there is and stuff

1425
00:55:48,339 --> 00:55:46,759
like that so yeah so anyway these guys

1426
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:48,349
that's the thing is these guys cycle

1427
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:50,720
through all the time that they just have

1428
00:55:55,359 --> 00:55:52,880
these these great interests in in the

1429
00:55:57,999 --> 00:55:55,369
subject and and so what happens with the

1430
00:56:00,489 --> 00:55:58,009
with the getting back to the Tom DeLonge

1431
00:56:03,069 --> 00:56:00,499
thing the reason that he'll put off was

1432
00:56:06,190 --> 00:56:03,079
involved according to him was that he

1433
00:56:08,170 --> 00:56:06,200
got a phone call from kit green again

1434
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:08,180
these guys talk to each other all time

1435
00:56:16,299 --> 00:56:13,849
and say there's this guy by name of Tom

1436
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,309
DeLonge and you might want to check out

1437
00:56:20,589 --> 00:56:18,079
what he's doing he's on the leading edge

1438
00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:20,599
so what they find out is that Tom

1439
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:23,150
DeLonge is being fed material from

1440
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,609
various agencies and if you want to know

1441
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:27,440
what's going on you should be in his

1442
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:29,690
camp so of course he phones up you know

1443
00:56:34,299 --> 00:56:31,910
Tom DeLonge and then he goes in there

1444
00:56:36,609 --> 00:56:34,309
and and he's gonna help him or whatever

1445
00:56:38,499 --> 00:56:36,619
but he gets to be on this leading edge

1446
00:56:40,359 --> 00:56:38,509
that he realizes the material is being

1447
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:40,369
leaked the same as John Alexander was

1448
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:42,890
was had they the UFO working group order

1449
00:56:47,470 --> 00:56:45,170
we want to call it the nits thing is

1450
00:56:48,670 --> 00:56:47,480
whenever they find there's a situation

1451
00:56:50,829 --> 00:56:48,680
where they can learn something more

1452
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:50,839
about UFO phenomena all these avery guys

1453
00:56:54,249 --> 00:56:52,730
they all just for show up so to me

1454
00:56:56,349 --> 00:56:54,259
they're just guys and I've known a lot

1455
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:56,359
of them in fact bill more people say all

1456
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,249
this bad stuff of Bill Moore Bill Moore

1457
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:00,079
I was respected because Bill Moore was

1458
00:57:04,450 --> 00:57:02,720
the only guy who ever helped me when we

1459
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,460
were chasing dr. Eric Walker the former

1460
00:57:07,989 --> 00:57:06,319
president of Penn State University and I

1461
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:07,999
said this guy knows he's got 14 honorary

1462
00:57:10,989 --> 00:57:09,650
Doctorate degrees chairman of the board

1463
00:57:13,269 --> 00:57:10,999
of the Institute for Defense analysis

1464
00:57:15,609 --> 00:57:13,279
and he basically confirmed to a

1465
00:57:16,809 --> 00:57:15,619
researcher that he had been at a series

1466
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:16,819
of briefings at wright-patterson Air

1467
00:57:21,309 --> 00:57:18,410
Force Base and he was this very

1468
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:21,319
high-level guy and we we went around

1469
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:22,880
trying to get everybody and Stanton

1470
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:24,319
talked to him one time and he sort of

1471
00:57:27,370 --> 00:57:25,970
hung out with the phone understand his

1472
00:57:28,989 --> 00:57:27,380
dad said oh he's not gonna talk what do

1473
00:57:30,999 --> 00:57:28,999
you what are you gonna do as and stands

1474
00:57:33,970 --> 00:57:31,009
this morning do it but Bill Moore said I

1475
00:57:36,099 --> 00:57:33,980
really don't I really don't agree with

1476
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:36,109
your consensus that this guy is who you

1477
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:38,810
think he is but I'm gonna check him out

1478
00:57:42,310 --> 00:57:40,670
I'll always give bill more credit for

1479
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,320
that because what he did is he said I've

1480
00:57:45,970 --> 00:57:44,480
got my I got a friend here BJ and I'm

1481
00:57:48,370 --> 00:57:45,980
gonna send BJ there and this took about

1482
00:57:51,130 --> 00:57:48,380
six months but that was Blue Jay that

1483
00:57:54,370 --> 00:57:51,140
was KITT green from the CIA and so kid

1484
00:57:56,170 --> 00:57:54,380
green go she flies to ya rant I hate to

1485
00:57:57,820 --> 00:57:56,180
do this to you but just remember where

1486
00:57:59,710 --> 00:57:57,830
you're at wherever you're a bill more in

1487
00:58:02,530 --> 00:57:59,720
the president okay I mean the the

1488
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:02,540
college whatever it is remember it cuz

1489
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:04,730
we got to take a break so folks we'll be

1490
00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:07,610
right back and when we come back in

1491
00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:09,800
about 15 minutes Melinda Leslie is gonna

1492
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:12,020
join us so it's gonna be it's gonna be

1493
00:58:18,970 --> 00:58:14,090
old home day for us grants everybody

1494
00:58:21,220 --> 00:58:18,980
stick around we'll be right back welcome

1495
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:21,230
back everyone to the California MUFON

1496
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,510
radio show I'm your host Lori invented

1497
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,760
we're here on inception radio network

1498
00:58:30,250 --> 00:58:27,440
the home of the most amazing app and

1499
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:30,260
also replayed weekly probably many a

1500
00:58:34,690 --> 00:58:32,930
time over at mic bar is late-night in

1501
00:58:36,190 --> 00:58:34,700
the Midlands so thank you for joining us

1502
00:58:38,380 --> 00:58:36,200
wherever you're listening and how you're

1503
00:58:40,810 --> 00:58:38,390
listening really appreciate it and I

1504
00:58:42,730 --> 00:58:40,820
just want to say that Melinda Leslie is

1505
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:42,740
gonna join us here the second hour I

1506
00:58:45,460 --> 00:58:43,760
don't know if I mentioned that earlier

1507
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:45,470
in the show she'll join us as soon as

1508
00:58:50,620 --> 00:58:48,890
she can get through to MJ and I'm trying

1509
00:58:53,020 --> 00:58:50,630
to sell I'm calling that number but

1510
00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:53,030
nobody is answering that is what she's

1511
00:59:01,930 --> 00:58:59,530
saying MJ so do you want to call her MJ

1512
00:59:07,450 --> 00:59:01,940
can you call her do you want me to call

1513
00:59:10,060 --> 00:59:07,460
her um it might give me an answer

1514
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:10,070
oh you're gonna try okay good I can see

1515
00:59:21,610 --> 00:59:18,400
like nobody was answering but now they

1516
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:21,620
are good okay good now I gotta bring

1517
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:24,050
we're live on air I'm going to bring

1518
00:59:30,220 --> 00:59:26,090
grant back in to talk about what we were

1519
00:59:32,830 --> 00:59:30,230
talking about before the break and so

1520
00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:32,840
you just go mute for a few minutes and

1521
00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:34,990
we'll bring you back in how's that sound

1522
00:59:40,270 --> 00:59:38,360
that sounds great okay sweetie Thanks

1523
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:40,280
okay grant so they're just talking about

1524
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:43,370
the guy that was the he was the

1525
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:45,050
president of the university is that

1526
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,970
correct I can't think and feel more was

1527
00:59:51,010 --> 00:59:49,520
helping you Bill Moore said oh I don't

1528
00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:51,020
know about this guy but I'll check him

1529
00:59:56,769 --> 00:59:52,430
out okay

1530
00:59:58,269 --> 00:59:56,779
so this is dr. Eric Walker who was very

1531
01:00:00,760 --> 00:59:58,279
good friends with President Eisenhower

1532
01:00:02,650 --> 01:00:00,770
and he was appointed president at Penn

1533
01:00:03,849 --> 01:00:02,660
State by Milton Eisenhower the

1534
01:00:06,609 --> 01:00:03,859
president's brother who was the

1535
01:00:09,069 --> 01:00:06,619
president before him and he indicated

1536
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:09,079
that he knew what was going on he's the

1537
01:00:13,089 --> 01:00:10,490
one that famously said we asked about

1538
01:00:15,609 --> 01:00:13,099
mj-12 he said I've known of them for 40

1539
01:00:17,380 --> 01:00:15,619
years this is an interview in 1987 I've

1540
01:00:19,089 --> 01:00:17,390
known of them for 40 years leave it

1541
01:00:20,859 --> 01:00:19,099
alone there's nothing you can do

1542
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:20,869
you're up against the windmill you're

1543
01:00:24,370 --> 01:00:22,730
wasting your time unless you have the

1544
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:24,380
mind of Einstein you are never going to

1545
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:26,089
solve this thing and he would talk like

1546
01:00:29,710 --> 01:00:27,680
that he couldn't he would say I can't

1547
01:00:31,269 --> 01:00:29,720
talk about UFOs I don't talk about UFOs

1548
01:00:33,279 --> 01:00:31,279
because was classified it but he

1549
01:00:35,380 --> 01:00:33,289
couldn't hang up the phone and people

1550
01:00:37,210 --> 01:00:35,390
would send him letters and I sat i sat

1551
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:37,220
on the sidelines I usually don't get

1552
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:39,170
involved with my victims but I sort of

1553
01:00:43,450 --> 01:00:41,569
had people in between me and and people

1554
01:00:45,099 --> 01:00:43,460
would be writing him and giving him

1555
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:45,109
phone calls and stuff and I was just

1556
01:00:49,569 --> 01:00:46,609
recording all this stuff and then I we

1557
01:00:51,730 --> 01:00:49,579
put it in a book but anyway so bill

1558
01:00:53,170 --> 01:00:51,740
Moore had to heard some of the stuff

1559
01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:53,180
he'd seen some of the interviews and

1560
01:00:58,599 --> 01:00:56,240
stuff and was you know he said I'll send

1561
01:01:00,490 --> 01:00:58,609
BJ there he never mentioned oh but I

1562
01:01:03,010 --> 01:01:00,500
knew it was it was a kid Green and kid

1563
01:01:04,359 --> 01:01:03,020
green to work for the CIA and he both of

1564
01:01:08,019 --> 01:01:04,369
them had worked on the Glomar Explorer

1565
01:01:09,789 --> 01:01:08,029
on the Howard Hughes thing and because

1566
01:01:12,250 --> 01:01:09,799
Walker was a submarine expert here and

1567
01:01:14,260 --> 01:01:12,260
the underwater underwater lab for the

1568
01:01:16,930 --> 01:01:14,270
Navy at Penn State University so he was

1569
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:16,940
an expert on submarines and he had

1570
01:01:22,299 --> 01:01:19,010
co-developed a homing torpedo in World

1571
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:22,309
War two and so KITT Green had also

1572
01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:24,410
worked on the Glomar Explorer at the CIA

1573
01:01:30,130 --> 01:01:27,710
and so they went in there and the from

1574
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:30,140
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01:01:59,940 --> 01:01:57,850
center so hurry yet and find yourself at

1586
01:02:02,550 --> 01:01:59,950
Guitar Center buy one email about this

1587
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:02,560
bill never reported back to me but I saw

1588
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:04,480
an email from these Avery guys David

1589
01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:06,130
said they're all these emails are going

1590
01:02:10,830 --> 01:02:09,310
back and forth and I never did I yeah I

1591
01:02:12,510 --> 01:02:10,840
don't know what I didn't keep it or what

1592
01:02:14,610 --> 01:02:12,520
happened but anyway so he went in there

1593
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:14,620
and then what happened was as long as

1594
01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:15,970
they were talking about the Glomar

1595
01:02:19,350 --> 01:02:17,740
Explorer in the CIA days it was great

1596
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:19,360
old times and they talked for about an

1597
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:20,770
hour and the minute he brought up the

1598
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:22,960
UFO subject Walker looked at him and

1599
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:25,450
said I don't have to tell you anything

1600
01:02:29,130 --> 01:02:27,850
you're not the president you can't tell

1601
01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:29,140
you can't you're not gonna get anything

1602
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:31,240
out of me and then he started talking to

1603
01:02:35,580 --> 01:02:33,310
a pile of books in the corner of the

1604
01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:35,590
room sort of giving kid green the

1605
01:02:39,090 --> 01:02:37,150
impression like the room is bugged

1606
01:02:41,250 --> 01:02:39,100
and he basically threw kid green out of

1607
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:41,260
the room and that's where it ended kate

1608
01:02:44,340 --> 01:02:42,850
green left penn state he'd come from

1609
01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:44,350
detroit went to penn state university

1610
01:02:48,990 --> 01:02:46,390
did this thing and got thrown out of the

1611
01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:49,000
office and so i always respected bill

1612
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:50,950
more because he actually sent somebody

1613
01:02:56,330 --> 01:02:53,050
in there to check this thing out and

1614
01:03:00,990 --> 01:02:56,340
kids been involved in all sorts of

1615
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:01,000
programs he's there was a famous one

1616
01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:03,280
that apparently he's now he's he's upset

1617
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:06,940
about it being leaked is the story of

1618
01:03:12,450 --> 01:03:10,210
him and a guy from the the academy of

1619
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:12,460
sciences in china we're going to do an

1620
01:03:16,020 --> 01:03:14,170
experiment on telepathy where they're

1621
01:03:18,030 --> 01:03:16,030
going to put people in they're gonna

1622
01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:18,040
have a sender or receiver they're gonna

1623
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:19,840
send a telepathic message and these

1624
01:03:23,790 --> 01:03:22,090
people would be in MRI machines and they

1625
01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:23,800
would test test the minim our machines

1626
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:26,220
to see whether this the the signal was

1627
01:03:30,690 --> 01:03:27,610
instantaneous

1628
01:03:32,430 --> 01:03:30,700
sure well that's it where was the same

1629
01:03:34,410 --> 01:03:32,440
same time at the same time so is it

1630
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:34,420
non-local is they taking five seconds

1631
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:35,950
for the for the message to get to the

1632
01:03:39,210 --> 01:03:37,690
other side so I don't know if that

1633
01:03:40,980 --> 01:03:39,220
experiment ever took place with kit

1634
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:40,990
you've always hear these things or the

1635
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:43,210
one that's going on right now is the one

1636
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:44,410
that we were talking I think we were

1637
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:45,730
talking about it you're talking about

1638
01:03:50,299 --> 01:03:47,400
the DNA yeah yeah

1639
01:03:52,009 --> 01:03:50,309
and the brain thing the the antenna

1640
01:03:55,370 --> 01:03:52,019
which which interest me because yeah

1641
01:03:57,049 --> 01:03:55,380
that's a term that these Latinos use for

1642
01:03:59,150 --> 01:03:57,059
these antenna people who are able to

1643
01:04:00,559 --> 01:03:59,160
predict to the minute when a sighting is

1644
01:04:02,809 --> 01:04:00,569
going to take place and they call them

1645
01:04:06,289 --> 01:04:02,819
antennas and these make it green and

1646
01:04:08,059 --> 01:04:06,299
help put off and this Gary Nolan are at

1647
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:08,069
Stanford and they're running this

1648
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:09,599
program now I actually made a contact

1649
01:04:15,739 --> 01:04:13,890
just recently to give them people very

1650
01:04:18,019 --> 01:04:15,749
high level people who wanted to help

1651
01:04:20,329 --> 01:04:18,029
I got no reply which indicates that this

1652
01:04:21,799 --> 01:04:20,339
is a closed operation that they really

1653
01:04:26,329 --> 01:04:21,809
aren't interested in what anybody's got

1654
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,339
to say they didn't respond and I've

1655
01:04:29,539 --> 01:04:28,079
known these these guys they would at

1656
01:04:31,249 --> 01:04:29,549
least say you know we can't help you or

1657
01:04:33,769 --> 01:04:31,259
forget to get lost or whatever but there

1658
01:04:34,970 --> 01:04:33,779
was nothing so that's become the Tom

1659
01:04:40,299 --> 01:04:34,980
DeLonge thing is can be a complete

1660
01:04:43,249 --> 01:04:40,309
shutdown I have a major writer

1661
01:04:45,710 --> 01:04:43,259
Psychology Today New York Times who has

1662
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:45,720
now come on board I've talked her for a

1663
01:04:50,089 --> 01:04:48,089
long time and she's now gonna do a it's

1664
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:50,099
going to use I do a UFO disclosure book

1665
01:04:55,339 --> 01:04:53,130
and she made a contact to the the long

1666
01:04:57,170 --> 01:04:55,349
operation and they basically said we

1667
01:04:59,839 --> 01:04:57,180
don't take we don't we don't accept

1668
01:05:01,880 --> 01:04:59,849
unsolicited projects our programs or

1669
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:01,890
whatever the term was they used and

1670
01:05:05,420 --> 01:05:03,690
there's been a number of reporters

1671
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:05,430
including I think Linda try to contact

1672
01:05:09,410 --> 01:05:07,529
them they won't talk to anybody so this

1673
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:09,420
is a thing right there they're spinning

1674
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:12,089
it out it's so carefully controlled if

1675
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:14,400
you take a look at when they had this

1676
01:05:20,089 --> 01:05:16,799
thing they've got an embedded journalist

1677
01:05:22,009 --> 01:05:20,099
which is Leslie Kane and and basically

1678
01:05:25,609 --> 01:05:22,019
no they won't talk to anybody but Leslie

1679
01:05:27,380 --> 01:05:25,619
Kane when this Lou Elizondo this is the

1680
01:05:29,269 --> 01:05:27,390
guy that the Department of Defense guy

1681
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:29,279
who came out and said I ran the the

1682
01:05:34,849 --> 01:05:31,650
aerial threat program and it's for real

1683
01:05:36,589 --> 01:05:34,859
and you know confirmed basically said

1684
01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:36,599
this for real the yeah I work for the

1685
01:05:41,870 --> 01:05:39,720
government and UFOs are for real and he

1686
01:05:44,779 --> 01:05:41,880
he'd the day after he retired he was

1687
01:05:46,339 --> 01:05:44,789
being interviewed by Leslie Kane so here

1688
01:05:47,690 --> 01:05:46,349
you have a situation where she's

1689
01:05:49,569 --> 01:05:47,700
interviewing all these people she's got

1690
01:05:52,279 --> 01:05:49,579
the inside track

1691
01:05:54,349 --> 01:05:52,289
Steve Justice it only been retired a

1692
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:54,359
couple of weeks or something and she had

1693
01:05:56,930 --> 01:05:55,650
the interview with him she puts the

1694
01:05:59,790 --> 01:05:56,940
whole story together so it's this very

1695
01:06:03,390 --> 01:05:59,800
controlled release and

1696
01:06:05,610 --> 01:06:03,400
axia and I managed to recovered it was a

1697
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:05,620
tweet that was done by Tom DeLonge a

1698
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:07,210
couple of days after a news conference

1699
01:06:14,310 --> 01:06:11,770
where he said every word was carefully

1700
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,320
written was carefully written for months

1701
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:16,480
which means that before Elizondo and

1702
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:18,310
before justice actually retired their

1703
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:19,510
speeches were actually written for them

1704
01:06:23,550 --> 01:06:21,730
already they walked in and and who and

1705
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:23,560
so it's almost like the UFO cover-up ly

1706
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:25,840
thing that did the complaint was there

1707
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:27,760
was this they're reading off cue cards

1708
01:06:31,410 --> 01:06:29,920
and then they you know and then the

1709
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:31,420
reason they're having off cue cards is

1710
01:06:34,830 --> 01:06:32,530
because he wants you don't want somebody

1711
01:06:37,110 --> 01:06:34,840
going off script you want somebody who's

1712
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:37,120
carefully because the UFO cover-up lie

1713
01:06:40,830 --> 01:06:39,130
that's where the the big debate came

1714
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:40,840
about but Richard Doty and I said

1715
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:42,370
Richard audience Faulk and I know knee

1716
01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:44,170
isn't he's just no way who's the Falcon

1717
01:06:47,850 --> 01:06:45,790
because I knew the Falcon was that that

1718
01:06:50,580 --> 01:06:47,860
that documentary and I asked Bill more

1719
01:06:53,850 --> 01:06:50,590
because what happened was Bill Coleman

1720
01:06:55,830 --> 01:06:53,860
was there he was on he was on and he was

1721
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:55,840
he was doing his little deal on the

1722
01:06:59,880 --> 01:06:57,370
Holloman Air Force Base film and all

1723
01:07:02,790 --> 01:06:59,890
that all this stuff and he told Billy

1724
01:07:05,850 --> 01:07:02,800
Cox who I knew very well from 1980s who

1725
01:07:06,930 --> 01:07:05,860
worked for the for the USA Today and he

1726
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:06,940
would then he worked for the Tampa

1727
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:09,760
Tribune very interested in UFOs he had a

1728
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:12,490
close encounter and he got him very

1729
01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:14,530
interesting he did this blog thing for

1730
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:17,950
years on UFOs and we were corresponding

1731
01:07:22,500 --> 01:07:19,570
during the time when his documentary is

1732
01:07:24,030 --> 01:07:22,510
being made and the rumor was before it

1733
01:07:25,470 --> 01:07:24,040
came out that Reagan was going to appear

1734
01:07:27,450 --> 01:07:25,480
at the live alien because the core story

1735
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:27,460
was out already and the idea was that

1736
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:29,650
Reagan as he left the office was gonna

1737
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:31,210
appear with the live alien so Billy Cox

1738
01:07:34,260 --> 01:07:32,890
and I were talking about is he is the

1739
01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:34,270
live alien going up here what's going to

1740
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:35,710
happen on this we knew this documentary

1741
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:37,450
was coming and so when the when the

1742
01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:40,000
documentary came he and he was good

1743
01:07:43,380 --> 01:07:41,710
friends with bill Coleman because bill

1744
01:07:45,060 --> 01:07:43,390
Coleman lived down the street from not

1745
01:07:47,550 --> 01:07:45,070
down street but he lived close to him in

1746
01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:47,560
Florida so he was talking to Bill

1747
01:07:52,980 --> 01:07:50,830
Coleman and Bill Coleman said I can't

1748
01:07:56,250 --> 01:07:52,990
believe it the Falken I met this guy I

1749
01:07:57,450 --> 01:07:56,260
cannot believe this guy was involved so

1750
01:08:00,210 --> 01:07:57,460
was Richard Doty because we know that

1751
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:00,220
Richard Doty was in was in a training

1752
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:03,370
for the New Mexico police at that time

1753
01:08:07,890 --> 01:08:06,010
and that they had flown to Albuquerque

1754
01:08:11,370 --> 01:08:07,900
to interview him for the the backlit

1755
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:11,380
Falken interview but Coleman said that

1756
01:08:13,740 --> 01:08:13,090
that he couldn't believe who this guy

1757
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:13,750
was and

1758
01:08:17,190 --> 01:08:15,490
Billy Cox tried to get him to describe

1759
01:08:20,849 --> 01:08:17,200
who it was so I contacted bill Moore and

1760
01:08:23,519 --> 01:08:20,859
I said bill Coleman said that Falken was

1761
01:08:25,559 --> 01:08:23,529
in the audience is that true and he said

1762
01:08:27,180 --> 01:08:25,569
well I'll tell you what grant there was

1763
01:08:28,110 --> 01:08:27,190
only 12 people in the audience let's

1764
01:08:29,670 --> 01:08:28,120
just leave it at that

1765
01:08:30,930 --> 01:08:29,680
which basically confirmed yes the Falken

1766
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:30,940
was actually there and it's the same

1767
01:08:35,670 --> 01:08:32,170
thing you have this guy in the

1768
01:08:36,420 --> 01:08:35,680
background who's a retired CIA that's

1769
01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:36,430
how it works

1770
01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:38,830
so the Falken was retired CIA they

1771
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:41,140
brought him out of retirement to do this

1772
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:42,850
and that's how it works the guy that's

1773
01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:45,279
running Tom DeLong's operation is Jim

1774
01:08:51,599 --> 01:08:48,910
semi man Jim Sullivan was a two-star

1775
01:08:53,789 --> 01:08:51,609
general in the equivalent he was an SES

1776
01:08:55,890 --> 01:08:53,799
too he was he was in the bush White

1777
01:08:58,260 --> 01:08:55,900
House he was in president's office every

1778
01:09:01,019 --> 01:08:58,270
day he ran the drone program very high

1779
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,029
level there's a ward named after CI very

1780
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:03,040
powerful guy and he's an experiencer he

1781
01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:05,170
had three beings in his room in the

1782
01:09:09,329 --> 01:09:07,630
1990s and his wife was curled over in a

1783
01:09:10,650 --> 01:09:09,339
fetus position and then the next thing

1784
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:10,660
he knew he's standing outside the house

1785
01:09:14,729 --> 01:09:11,920
and he was watching this flying saucer

1786
01:09:16,769 --> 01:09:14,739
fly away so he's an experienced ER and

1787
01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:16,779
he went and tried to get briefed and

1788
01:09:21,329 --> 01:09:19,000
they wouldn't brief him Tennant said you

1789
01:09:24,059 --> 01:09:21,339
don't want this you don't need this

1790
01:09:27,570 --> 01:09:24,069
you're going to be stereotyped and what

1791
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:27,580
happens is as soon as he retires in 2008

1792
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:29,770
that's when Ron Pandolfi briefs him and

1793
01:09:34,110 --> 01:09:32,080
brings him into the program because you

1794
01:09:36,749 --> 01:09:34,120
can't if you're in the CIA you can't be

1795
01:09:38,910 --> 01:09:36,759
involved in this it's to all xci people

1796
01:09:41,789 --> 01:09:38,920
because the Senate's in the black world

1797
01:09:43,019 --> 01:09:41,799
so so so Jim semi van is running Tom

1798
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:43,029
belongs operation I don't care what

1799
01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:44,799
anybody says he's running the operation

1800
01:09:49,140 --> 01:09:46,180
and it's all very carefully controlled

1801
01:09:51,090 --> 01:09:49,150
it's all very carefully scripted and you

1802
01:09:52,019 --> 01:09:51,100
have these stories it's its own but it's

1803
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:52,029
almost like it's run by the government

1804
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:54,640
cuz it's so you're missing all the

1805
01:09:58,650 --> 01:09:57,370
deadlines in fact there's the story that

1806
01:10:00,959 --> 01:09:58,660
I had to put out the rumor that were

1807
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:00,969
slapping a Sunday but now I heard from

1808
01:10:05,670 --> 01:10:04,239
MUFON in Canada here they said have you

1809
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:05,680
heard this that the film is coming out

1810
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:08,050
because there's a story that that what

1811
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:10,090
are you talking about I I'm so confused

1812
01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:12,310
so go ahead and explain it a little more

1813
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:13,780
detail because I lost

1814
01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:16,330
loulou Elizondo the guy that said I ran

1815
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:21,070
the program also stated that we are

1816
01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:24,960
going to release UFO footage that is

1817
01:10:30,370 --> 01:10:27,640
what's the word for it

1818
01:10:35,770 --> 01:10:30,380
compelling the evidence or no no UFO

1819
01:10:36,910 --> 01:10:35,780
footage UFO video that is sanctioned

1820
01:10:38,110 --> 01:10:36,920
that it that the government is actually

1821
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:38,120
gonna sign off on it

1822
01:10:41,890 --> 01:10:39,530
the government is going to say yes it's

1823
01:10:43,540 --> 01:10:41,900
legitimate stop and he said that almost

1824
01:10:45,790 --> 01:10:43,550
a I think it was either in the news

1825
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:45,800
conference or it was to last Akane I

1826
01:10:50,530 --> 01:10:47,330
have right at that that news conference

1827
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,540
thing so then the story came out note on

1828
01:10:55,390 --> 01:10:52,640
November the 18th Tom DeLonge put out a

1829
01:10:58,570 --> 01:10:55,400
tweet that said there's going to be a

1830
01:11:01,060 --> 01:10:58,580
release of the film within two weeks and

1831
01:11:02,650 --> 01:11:01,070
I'm not doing the release so sorry Tom

1832
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:02,660
Blanc it's gonna be one of the people so

1833
01:11:06,370 --> 01:11:04,610
it's probably gonna be Lu Alessandro cuz

1834
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:06,380
he's the guy talked about it then they

1835
01:11:09,490 --> 01:11:08,000
pulled that tweet then he put another

1836
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:09,500
tweet out that said it would be three

1837
01:11:14,620 --> 01:11:12,050
weeks from from November the 18th then

1838
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:14,630
there was a rumor last week that said

1839
01:11:18,910 --> 01:11:16,730
Sunday something was gonna happen Sunday

1840
01:11:21,190 --> 01:11:18,920
and the rumor was New York Times then I

1841
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:21,200
got a the guy confirmed to me just today

1842
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:23,570
said no it's not New York Times but it's

1843
01:11:29,740 --> 01:11:26,410
big then I get a phone call from from

1844
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:29,750
Stu Bundy in Toronto today and he said I

1845
01:11:34,930 --> 01:11:32,570
hear the film's coming is is this is

1846
01:11:36,820 --> 01:11:34,940
this what is it coming today or tomorrow

1847
01:11:38,290 --> 01:11:36,830
or something so there's this film that

1848
01:11:40,510 --> 01:11:38,300
they're gonna drop that is going to be

1849
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:40,520
sanctioned that this is legitimate film

1850
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:42,170
and it may be the Nimitz film I put it

1851
01:11:48,910 --> 01:11:47,360
on my right site because I managed to

1852
01:11:51,340 --> 01:11:48,920
figure out where this what the film was

1853
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:51,350
and I put it up but it's not confirmed

1854
01:11:55,420 --> 01:11:53,330
by the government so that maybe the film

1855
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:55,430
one of the films that the girl lease but

1856
01:11:58,900 --> 01:11:57,410
it's actually going to say there's going

1857
01:12:01,090 --> 01:11:58,910
to be a sign off that the government

1858
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:01,100
actually authenticates that this is

1859
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:04,310
legitimate film oh my god well that's

1860
01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:06,410
disclosure isn't it don't you think

1861
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:07,760
yeah well that's I think what they've

1862
01:12:10,690 --> 01:12:09,410
done and this is my impression of what

1863
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:10,700
they've done is they've gone back to

1864
01:12:15,310 --> 01:12:13,280
1947 they try to figure out how do we

1865
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:15,320
get this thing out so what they do is

1866
01:12:19,690 --> 01:12:18,050
they say let's start at 1947 again we

1867
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:19,700
make the announcement and it has worked

1868
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,489
they make the announcement and say yes

1869
01:12:26,020 --> 01:12:24,560
there are UFOs and we haven't got the

1870
01:12:27,970 --> 01:12:26,030
foggiest notion what's going on and

1871
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:27,980
we're gonna investigate it and so they

1872
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:29,210
start where they should have done in

1873
01:12:34,510 --> 01:12:31,250
1947 instead of saying there's nothing

1874
01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:34,520
going on it's alright and perhaps like

1875
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:35,960
that so they've done that and the other

1876
01:12:39,070 --> 01:12:37,489
thing that everybody talks about the

1877
01:12:40,990 --> 01:12:39,080
money and I think what what's happened

1878
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:41,000
here is that what the other

1879
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:43,130
that they've done is even if you say

1880
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,310
UFOs are real you're stuck in a box how

1881
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:48,800
do you get the technology out so what

1882
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:50,030
they do is they bring in this Steve

1883
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:52,610
justice guy first they had and nobody's

1884
01:12:56,290 --> 01:12:55,280
explained this you had originally Tom

1885
01:12:58,690 --> 01:12:56,300
DeLonge gets set up for these two

1886
01:13:00,370 --> 01:12:58,700
generals one is the guy his assistant

1887
01:13:01,510 --> 01:13:00,380
head of Space Command the other guy was

1888
01:13:02,890 --> 01:13:01,520
the guy that ran the lab at

1889
01:13:05,170 --> 01:13:02,900
wright-patterson Air Force Base where

1890
01:13:08,290 --> 01:13:05,180
the bodies are so spend this much mckay

1891
01:13:09,670 --> 01:13:08,300
and this McCaslin general guys and then

1892
01:13:11,740 --> 01:13:09,680
Robert Weiss who was the head of

1893
01:13:12,430 --> 01:13:11,750
Lockheed skunkworks so in the Podesta

1894
01:13:14,770 --> 01:13:12,440
emails

1895
01:13:15,370 --> 01:13:14,780
these guys are identified as Tom

1896
01:13:18,250 --> 01:13:15,380
DeLong's

1897
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:18,260
inside sources so when he goes for the

1898
01:13:22,750 --> 01:13:20,810
news conference then is what I call the

1899
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:22,760
B team you put the B team out you don't

1900
01:13:25,330 --> 01:13:24,110
have the generals anymore now you've got

1901
01:13:27,370 --> 01:13:25,340
people under the generals so you got

1902
01:13:29,140 --> 01:13:27,380
this Lou Elizondo guy who's not a

1903
01:13:31,420 --> 01:13:29,150
general but he's in that department and

1904
01:13:33,070 --> 01:13:31,430
you have Steve Justus who's not Robert

1905
01:13:34,750 --> 01:13:33,080
Weiss the head of Lockheed skunkworks

1906
01:13:36,250 --> 01:13:34,760
he's a Lockheed skunkworks guy and

1907
01:13:37,930 --> 01:13:36,260
they're coming out so they raised this

1908
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:37,940
money and the whole thing was well the

1909
01:13:41,260 --> 01:13:39,440
kid that this they could spend his two

1910
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:41,270
million bucks they've raised in like 15

1911
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:42,410
minutes this is nuts

1912
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:45,410
but that may be just a cover for what

1913
01:13:49,210 --> 01:13:46,910
they're actually doing is they are

1914
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:49,220
because Steve justice is stating that he

1915
01:13:54,610 --> 01:13:52,490
is going to produce material that it was

1916
01:13:56,440 --> 01:13:54,620
worked on at Lockheed skunkworks this is

1917
01:13:57,820 --> 01:13:56,450
classified material you go to jail for

1918
01:13:59,470 --> 01:13:57,830
this kind of stuff when you walk out of

1919
01:14:02,200 --> 01:13:59,480
Lockheed you don't just say I'm gonna

1920
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:02,210
okay what's going on right so this is

1921
01:14:07,210 --> 01:14:04,490
the leak this is how they move the black

1922
01:14:08,770 --> 01:14:07,220
technology into the white world is this

1923
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:08,780
a scam they've got the two million

1924
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:10,610
dollars Steve justice bringing it across

1925
01:14:15,070 --> 01:14:12,770
and it's worked because nobody even says

1926
01:14:17,470 --> 01:14:15,080
anything it's almost like when when lose

1927
01:14:19,870 --> 01:14:17,480
Lou Elizondo stood up and said it's for

1928
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:19,880
real we have UFOs I worked the program

1929
01:14:23,530 --> 01:14:22,010
and I'm in the government everybody just

1930
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,540
said well what about the money he's

1931
01:14:27,430 --> 01:14:25,760
running a scam the money nobody even

1932
01:14:28,690 --> 01:14:27,440
considered the fact that they had

1933
01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:28,700
actually disclosed they just want to

1934
01:14:32,410 --> 01:14:30,350
talk about the money the money is just a

1935
01:14:35,410 --> 01:14:32,420
cover it's just a thing to distract

1936
01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:35,420
people from from from justice saying I'm

1937
01:14:39,370 --> 01:14:37,400
going to bring this this this black

1938
01:14:41,380 --> 01:14:39,380
technology into the world that we're

1939
01:14:42,580 --> 01:14:41,390
gonna build this flying saucer and so

1940
01:14:45,310 --> 01:14:42,590
you really don't need that much money

1941
01:14:46,990 --> 01:14:45,320
all you need is Steve Justice to bring

1942
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:47,000
the material out of Lockheed skunkworks

1943
01:14:50,170 --> 01:14:49,040
and put it in the white world that's how

1944
01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:50,180
they moved the technology out of the

1945
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:52,910
black world interesting that's very

1946
01:14:56,350 --> 01:14:54,800
interesting because I know

1947
01:14:58,689 --> 01:14:56,360
exactly we were saying is when I watched

1948
01:15:01,450 --> 01:14:58,699
it and he said that I thought to myself

1949
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:01,460
well every UFO every person who's been

1950
01:15:05,890 --> 01:15:03,440
abducted or as contact already knows

1951
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:05,900
this yeah so they're gonna gloss right

1952
01:15:09,580 --> 01:15:07,760
over that and it's not gonna make any

1953
01:15:11,859 --> 01:15:09,590
sense to anybody else because they're

1954
01:15:14,169 --> 01:15:11,869
gonna think these guys are nuts I mean

1955
01:15:15,939 --> 01:15:14,179
you gotta realize you got my sister who

1956
01:15:17,470 --> 01:15:15,949
doesn't believe in any of this and she

1957
01:15:18,879 --> 01:15:17,480
would hear that she all these guys are

1958
01:15:20,859 --> 01:15:18,889
nuts and she turned it off and she'd

1959
01:15:23,319 --> 01:15:20,869
forget about it right yeah then you have

1960
01:15:25,629 --> 01:15:23,329
the UFO community going oh well you know

1961
01:15:27,129 --> 01:15:25,639
all the contact these are going oh we

1962
01:15:28,299 --> 01:15:27,139
already know that now what are you guys

1963
01:15:31,930 --> 01:15:28,309
up to what do you how are you gonna

1964
01:15:34,419 --> 01:15:31,940
screw us over this time right yeah and

1965
01:15:36,339 --> 01:15:34,429
everybody forgot that what they're

1966
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:36,349
trying to do is they're trying to do

1967
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:38,239
their own thing out in the public now

1968
01:15:44,890 --> 01:15:41,750
for the people that are under 25 so that

1969
01:15:47,169 --> 01:15:44,900
in 20 years there is no big deal when

1970
01:15:49,330 --> 01:15:47,179
these aliens start showing up and doing

1971
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:49,340
whatever they do you know that's what

1972
01:15:52,780 --> 01:15:51,440
I'm seeing that's just my take on it

1973
01:15:55,330 --> 01:15:52,790
grant what's your take on it

1974
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:55,340
yeah I I the way I look at these guys is

1975
01:16:00,549 --> 01:15:56,719
because I know some of these guys I mean

1976
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:00,559
I I know some people very close to semi

1977
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:03,110
van I've heard in great detail his story

1978
01:16:07,149 --> 01:16:05,840
how they they wanted money that he

1979
01:16:09,790 --> 01:16:07,159
believed that this thing had to be

1980
01:16:12,189 --> 01:16:09,800
funded and it has to do with this this

1981
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:12,199
big thing in Sweden where they've got

1982
01:16:17,879 --> 01:16:14,510
all this UFO material and semi van was

1983
01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:17,889
there and he wants material released for

1984
01:16:21,939 --> 01:16:20,239
academics to study the phenomena and

1985
01:16:24,189 --> 01:16:21,949
stuff I got so I know that that that

1986
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:24,199
semi van is a guy he's he's not like the

1987
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:26,960
evil you know guy in the government he's

1988
01:16:29,919 --> 01:16:28,159
a guy who's trying to figure out what's

1989
01:16:32,649 --> 01:16:29,929
going on and he said this experience and

1990
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:32,659
so the way I look at these people is

1991
01:16:36,850 --> 01:16:34,250
they got this very difficult problem

1992
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:36,860
they screwed it up in 1947 and they're

1993
01:16:41,319 --> 01:16:38,719
trying to figure out how do we do this

1994
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:41,329
without blowing up the without going

1995
01:16:46,030 --> 01:16:44,510
down in in in flames ourselves and it's

1996
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:46,040
actually worked because nobody's picking

1997
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:48,110
up on this nobody's it's like I always

1998
01:16:52,030 --> 01:16:49,730
said like what happened to the street

1999
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:52,040
the two generals and Robert Weiss they

2000
01:16:58,330 --> 01:16:55,250
came out they were identified that we

2001
01:16:59,919 --> 01:16:58,340
actually had a researcher go to the New

2002
01:17:02,470 --> 01:16:59,929
York Times to three reporters in New

2003
01:17:04,450 --> 01:17:02,480
York Times and said there's guys have

2004
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:04,460
been outed that's in WikiLeaks they had

2005
01:17:07,629 --> 01:17:06,110
a meeting with John Podesta on UFO

2006
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:07,639
disclosure are you going to do something

2007
01:17:10,150 --> 01:17:08,570
about this

2008
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,160
New York Times all three reporter said

2009
01:17:14,890 --> 01:17:12,320
we'll pass on the story so nobody's

2010
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:14,900
going same as chase Brandon comes out in

2011
01:17:19,180 --> 01:17:17,450
2012 is this a second highest guy to

2012
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,190
speak publicly on behalf of the CI he's

2013
01:17:23,950 --> 01:17:21,440
like super high-level CIA guy comes out

2014
01:17:25,330 --> 01:17:23,960
and says UFO Roswell was real it was

2015
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:25,340
extraterrestrial and there were bodies

2016
01:17:28,930 --> 01:17:26,930
and he walks back in the shadows and

2017
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:28,940
nobody bothers to even chase the guy so

2018
01:17:31,870 --> 01:17:30,710
he puts his stuff out and nobody does

2019
01:17:33,490 --> 01:17:31,880
anything because everybody's so busy

2020
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:33,500
with their life you know sending their

2021
01:17:36,940 --> 01:17:34,970
kids to soccer practice and making it

2022
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:36,950
making a job and trying to pay the bills

2023
01:17:40,660 --> 01:17:39,110
and stuff that the this is so little but

2024
01:17:42,670 --> 01:17:40,670
they're doing so I look at it as a bunch

2025
01:17:44,170 --> 01:17:42,680
of guys who have a really difficult

2026
01:17:46,330 --> 01:17:44,180
situation and they're trying to figure

2027
01:17:48,010 --> 01:17:46,340
out how do we do this how do we get this

2028
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,020
thing out we want this thing out we

2029
01:17:51,820 --> 01:17:50,000
realize it's got to get out and how do

2030
01:17:54,370 --> 01:17:51,830
we do it and then it makes sense the way

2031
01:17:56,290 --> 01:17:54,380
they they just drop this thing and they

2032
01:17:58,270 --> 01:17:56,300
run this this money thing that everybody

2033
01:18:00,310 --> 01:17:58,280
picked up on all people talked about was

2034
01:18:02,260 --> 01:18:00,320
the money nobody picked up on anything

2035
01:18:03,580 --> 01:18:02,270
else that happened in that thing so they

2036
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:03,590
basically done this and that's why you

2037
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:05,090
can see it's so carefully controlled

2038
01:18:11,620 --> 01:18:07,250
they will not talk to anybody they will

2039
01:18:13,780 --> 01:18:11,630
not and it's leave you with him to save

2040
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:13,790
my rear end not that I ever could anyhow

2041
01:18:18,130 --> 01:18:15,920
but I mean I even if I tried he would

2042
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:18,140
say no sure and then the hoe talks about

2043
01:18:22,660 --> 01:18:21,440
the fact that he came to her and DeLonge

2044
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:22,670
came to her and said you know you're

2045
01:18:26,620 --> 01:18:24,530
gonna be one of my stars and and all

2046
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:26,630
these offers and this and that and stuff

2047
01:18:30,220 --> 01:18:28,250
and then he just cut her off and he and

2048
01:18:32,590 --> 01:18:30,230
she can't talk to him either and and he

2049
01:18:34,180 --> 01:18:32,600
approached her and and made these offers

2050
01:18:35,410 --> 01:18:34,190
like you got to be part of my team and

2051
01:18:36,730 --> 01:18:35,420
you know everything and you're the

2052
01:18:38,020 --> 01:18:36,740
greatest and all this stuff and she

2053
01:18:40,270 --> 01:18:38,030
can't get home either

2054
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:40,280
so they've cut off everybody and that

2055
01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:41,930
shows this this idea it's almost like

2056
01:18:45,580 --> 01:18:43,910
the script like the you have a cover up

2057
01:18:47,410 --> 01:18:45,590
life or it's all scripted where

2058
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:47,420
everybody stays on script nobody goes

2059
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:49,310
off script you're the only people that

2060
01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:51,290
are allowed to interview are the people

2061
01:18:55,450 --> 01:18:53,360
that we allow so so Leslie Kane does

2062
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:55,460
interviews you allow one interview with

2063
01:19:00,040 --> 01:18:57,530
Rogan nobody else we don't want anybody

2064
01:19:02,710 --> 01:19:00,050
going off script we don't want Lorien

2065
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:02,720
doing a story and quoting Tom DeLonge

2066
01:19:06,430 --> 01:19:04,130
and screwing the thing up or whatever

2067
01:19:09,370 --> 01:19:06,440
it's also careful we don't want her

2068
01:19:11,260 --> 01:19:09,380
digging into his past bring it out to my

2069
01:19:16,150 --> 01:19:11,270
audience should like what I said in the

2070
01:19:19,150 --> 01:19:16,160
past and now grant I and this point but

2071
01:19:20,570 --> 01:19:19,160
I yeah I just hold on one second here's

2072
01:19:25,730 --> 01:19:20,580
what I wanted

2073
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:25,740
I miss you guys I yeah I'm sure you do I

2074
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:28,050
got one question for both of you and I'm

2075
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:30,960
gonna answer it first because my problem

2076
01:19:34,220 --> 01:19:32,250
with the whole thing grant is I

2077
01:19:36,350 --> 01:19:34,230
understand what they're doing and I get

2078
01:19:39,710 --> 01:19:36,360
it and I did catch the fact that they

2079
01:19:42,650 --> 01:19:39,720
disclosed in that but my problem with it

2080
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:42,660
again as you both know is that I cannot

2081
01:19:48,170 --> 01:19:46,170
stand an external force that has really

2082
01:19:50,330 --> 01:19:48,180
nothing to do with the whole UFO

2083
01:19:53,210 --> 01:19:50,340
community like boots on the ground like

2084
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:53,220
grant Melinda and Lorien like we live

2085
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:56,250
this everyday of our lives right these

2086
01:20:01,940 --> 01:19:58,560
guys pop in and decide how they're going

2087
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:01,950
to control what we are hearing from them

2088
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:04,890
and they and they what's so bizarre to

2089
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:06,960
me grant is that they disclose during

2090
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:09,570
that that conference and nobody ever

2091
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:12,090
talked about it see that's how much mind

2092
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:14,400
control plays in this and social media

2093
01:20:19,220 --> 01:20:16,770
and how they're controlling all of our

2094
01:20:22,130 --> 01:20:19,230
all of how words it's supposed to think

2095
01:20:24,830 --> 01:20:22,140
about this and it's making me crazy I

2096
01:20:26,780 --> 01:20:24,840
can't stand it it makes me nuts so grant

2097
01:20:29,060 --> 01:20:26,790
let's let's start with Melinda first

2098
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:29,070
Melinda what is your take on what

2099
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:31,650
they're doing and how did you react to

2100
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:35,970
it I think everyone needs to keep in

2101
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:40,050
mind and you said disclosure right then

2102
01:20:45,260 --> 01:20:41,610
and a couple minutes ago in this

2103
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:45,270
conversation Laurie and you said if you

2104
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:47,610
know about being disclosure what we're

2105
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,440
after members there's disclosure with a

2106
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:51,360
capital D and then they're soft its

2107
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:53,370
disclosure well true what we're getting

2108
01:20:58,970 --> 01:20:56,490
here is soft disclosure this is not an

2109
01:21:02,630 --> 01:20:58,980
overnight deal this is a 40 or 50 year

2110
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:02,640
plan that we're on the middle of okay so

2111
01:21:08,660 --> 01:21:05,730
this this is this is not everything

2112
01:21:10,580 --> 01:21:08,670
overnight this is I agree that with

2113
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:10,590
Grant that this may be an attempt to

2114
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:13,440
start to bring some of the technologies

2115
01:21:20,210 --> 01:21:16,850
at what not into the white world I'll

2116
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:20,220
believe it when I see it but it could be

2117
01:21:28,670 --> 01:21:23,570
their attempt to start that process but

2118
01:21:33,230 --> 01:21:28,680
separately it is soft disclosure and and

2119
01:21:34,460 --> 01:21:33,240
and everyone needs to remember and and I

2120
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:34,470
might say everyone I mean

2121
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:37,610
both of you guys in and your audience

2122
01:21:44,830 --> 01:21:41,610
but the whole point to the working group

2123
01:21:48,140 --> 01:21:44,840
and their involvement all along and

2124
01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:48,150
about every five years or so they roll

2125
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:50,910
out another program or multiple programs

2126
01:21:57,940 --> 01:21:54,690
as grant has been quick to say and this

2127
01:22:00,800 --> 01:21:57,950
is just the the current program Dave a

2128
01:22:04,030 --> 01:22:00,810
lot of their attempts to do this before

2129
01:22:05,780 --> 01:22:04,040
went so far and then they pulled back

2130
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:05,790
this is brand-new

2131
01:22:10,910 --> 01:22:08,130
let's see how long it keeps going it

2132
01:22:16,780 --> 01:22:10,920
might get pulled back as well

2133
01:22:19,970 --> 01:22:16,790
but the point being that ufology is

2134
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:19,980
being manipulated from behind the sees

2135
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:21,930
you were just saying oh I hate when

2136
01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:24,330
these guys come in you know these

2137
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:26,910
seemingly Outsiders Lorien these aren't

2138
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:29,760
you fall G Outsiders at all I know that

2139
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:32,250
you guys a lot of these guys have been

2140
01:22:41,330 --> 01:22:35,520
very very active in ufology from the

2141
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:41,340
get-go it's true I'm just saying I don't

2142
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:46,850
know I just I don't I hate it well

2143
01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:50,970
manipulated for 50 years yeah we don't

2144
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:52,710
like it but it's the way you followed

2145
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:54,810
you works you know or the way it doesn't

2146
01:22:59,660 --> 01:22:57,330
work as the case may be but yeah but I

2147
01:23:05,960 --> 01:22:59,670
don't we send manipulated from the gate

2148
01:23:09,770 --> 01:23:05,970
code that that that the you fall UFOs

2149
01:23:14,260 --> 01:23:09,780
and the presence of others and the

2150
01:23:17,870 --> 01:23:14,270
technology associated with it is so

2151
01:23:20,270 --> 01:23:17,880
significant that it has been an

2152
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:20,280
intelligence run operation from the

2153
01:23:29,150 --> 01:23:26,400
get-go that the government's last shadow

2154
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:29,160
government have been involved with this

2155
01:23:34,210 --> 01:23:32,250
subject matter with the ETS with the

2156
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:34,220
development the technology

2157
01:23:42,860 --> 01:23:40,050
you know from pre Roswell you know I

2158
01:23:44,900 --> 01:23:42,870
mean it's that's what 70 years and

2159
01:23:48,209 --> 01:23:44,910
there's evidence that they've been

2160
01:23:50,819 --> 01:23:48,219
involved before then that's how they had

2161
01:23:52,529 --> 01:23:50,829
all the procedures in place at Roswell

2162
01:23:54,509 --> 01:23:52,539
they weren't paying to reinvent the

2163
01:23:57,029 --> 01:23:54,519
wheel with Roswell they knew how to

2164
01:23:59,580 --> 01:23:57,039
handle the situation because they had

2165
01:24:04,379 --> 01:23:59,590
handled even situations prior to that

2166
01:24:07,649 --> 01:24:04,389
you bet and so all along this has been

2167
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:07,659
manipulated in control one of the

2168
01:24:13,890 --> 01:24:10,239
members of the working group once said

2169
01:24:16,649 --> 01:24:13,900
to me and I've been researching this and

2170
01:24:19,219 --> 01:24:16,659
I applaud that grant has been on to it

2171
01:24:22,049 --> 01:24:19,229
for grand I don't know when you first

2172
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:22,059
stumbled on to them and and got involved

2173
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:24,249
with behavior and everything but you

2174
01:24:29,819 --> 01:24:27,130
know whatever it's been my research

2175
01:24:31,259 --> 01:24:29,829
associate knife and I we taught you and

2176
01:24:34,739 --> 01:24:31,269
I've talked about this have been

2177
01:24:39,149 --> 01:24:34,749
involved with is in this for about 28 29

2178
01:24:43,580 --> 01:24:39,159
years now I'd say 28 years and and

2179
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:43,590
really I would say very hard core

2180
01:24:53,879 --> 01:24:50,170
working at it for 25 years but but again

2181
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:53,889
the whole point being is it's a study in

2182
01:24:58,739 --> 01:24:56,530
how you follow Jesus been manipulated a

2183
01:25:00,899 --> 01:24:58,749
lot and as I started to say one of these

2184
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,909
guys I always caught the were in at the

2185
01:25:05,969 --> 01:25:02,880
spinet speech you know they he said

2186
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:05,979
we're involved in ufology to direct it

2187
01:25:08,819 --> 01:25:07,449
and steer it where we wanted to go and

2188
01:25:11,129 --> 01:25:08,829
steer it away from where we don't want

2189
01:25:14,609 --> 01:25:11,139
you know and and so they've been

2190
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:14,619
involved in that way ever since and he

2191
01:25:18,779 --> 01:25:16,510
also said we answer to a bigger umbrella

2192
01:25:21,450 --> 01:25:18,789
group I have never thought the working

2193
01:25:23,879 --> 01:25:21,460
group was the current incarnation of you

2194
01:25:28,919 --> 01:25:23,889
know m-day 12 or something I don't think

2195
01:25:31,049 --> 01:25:28,929
so it that they answer to a bigger

2196
01:25:34,109 --> 01:25:31,059
umbrella group and that they're just one

2197
01:25:37,399 --> 01:25:34,119
branch of it but they're one branch of

2198
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:37,409
it that is specifically active in

2199
01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:41,440
ufology in the UFO field and in

2200
01:25:47,069 --> 01:25:45,249
manipulating the UFO feel manipulating

2201
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:47,079
certain you follow just certain

2202
01:25:51,899 --> 01:25:49,690
directions leaking stuff when they want

2203
01:25:56,129 --> 01:25:51,909
it leaked spinning it back away from

2204
01:25:56,580 --> 01:25:56,139
that one they don't want it excuse me

2205
01:26:00,930 --> 01:25:56,590
guys

2206
01:26:01,709 --> 01:26:00,940
anyway so and I want people understand

2207
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:01,719
that the you

2208
01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:04,150
that's the point when we're following

2209
01:26:10,529 --> 01:26:06,820
the DeLong story and the to the Stars

2210
01:26:12,750 --> 01:26:10,539
Academy that's just the the the current

2211
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:12,760
thing that they're involved in you know

2212
01:26:19,169 --> 01:26:16,449
you can go back to of course the

2213
01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:19,179
formation of the aviary and a meeting

2214
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:23,590
that took place May 21st 1985 of maybe

2215
01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:26,170
an official formation but they

2216
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:29,860
pre-existed that I had when Colonel

2217
01:26:35,489 --> 01:26:32,320
corsa was alive and Phil Burns was still

2218
01:26:37,739 --> 01:26:35,499
very much involved with them when I

2219
01:26:39,569 --> 01:26:37,749
talked to Bill about some my research in

2220
01:26:42,419 --> 01:26:39,579
this early on and Corso was still like

2221
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:42,429
he went to car so in Corso said oh yeah

2222
01:26:45,390 --> 01:26:44,050
I was involved in that even prior to

2223
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:45,400
that blah blah blah and knew a

2224
01:26:51,899 --> 01:26:48,880
prehistory the group going back long

2225
01:26:54,419 --> 01:26:51,909
before 85 that he was involved in you

2226
01:26:57,239 --> 01:26:54,429
know and in my these days I got a tech

2227
01:26:58,770 --> 01:26:57,249
bill birnes brain about what exactly did

2228
01:27:02,129 --> 01:26:58,780
course we'll say about that prehistory

2229
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:02,139
and who else was involved and well to

2230
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:04,570
what capacity he was and and how did he

2231
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:06,880
know about it becoming a working group

2232
01:27:13,259 --> 01:27:10,090
as we know it now and of course the

2233
01:27:15,629 --> 01:27:13,269
aviary was just a name thrown on by

2234
01:27:17,729 --> 01:27:15,639
morons and array who said well we're

2235
01:27:20,549 --> 01:27:17,739
working with these guys when so we know

2236
01:27:21,839 --> 01:27:20,559
we're talking about and so you know they

2237
01:27:23,819 --> 01:27:21,849
do you know will come up with these

2238
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:23,829
stupid bird names and as a group of cult

2239
01:27:28,259 --> 01:27:25,840
the aviary you get very one bird names

2240
01:27:33,930 --> 01:27:28,269
because that was their way of talking

2241
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:33,940
about it without without you know saying

2242
01:27:39,899 --> 01:27:37,840
the the names of the members you know

2243
01:27:41,459 --> 01:27:39,909
back then because they didn't want to

2244
01:27:43,140 --> 01:27:41,469
leak that because they didn't want to

2245
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:43,150
scare these guys off and blah blah blah

2246
01:27:48,330 --> 01:27:46,030
but anyway so it made sense back then to

2247
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:48,340
give them all these code names and the

2248
01:27:52,830 --> 01:27:50,530
terminology aviary this group never

2249
01:27:54,379 --> 01:27:52,840
called themselves the aviary it's all

2250
01:27:56,969 --> 01:27:54,389
kind of a big joke to them now but

2251
01:27:59,370 --> 01:27:56,979
that's what it was that was more in

2252
01:28:00,629 --> 01:27:59,380
shandur a calling calling who they're

2253
01:28:03,060 --> 01:28:00,639
involved with at the time and the

2254
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:03,070
working group is named and the working

2255
01:28:09,390 --> 01:28:07,110
group yeah yeah anyhow if you've got a

2256
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:09,400
conclusion you're coming to that's great

2257
01:28:13,259 --> 01:28:11,110
but I want to make sure Greg gets his

2258
01:28:15,539 --> 01:28:13,269
answer in on how he feels about these

2259
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:15,549
guys running our narrative

2260
01:28:19,559 --> 01:28:18,010
okay well I think the clean thumb that

2261
01:28:22,699 --> 01:28:19,569
that that main point I want to make

2262
01:28:24,929 --> 01:28:22,709
right and also we did we I had grant

2263
01:28:27,239 --> 01:28:24,939
methodically for the first hour go

2264
01:28:28,949 --> 01:28:27,249
through the history of all this so we

2265
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:28,959
did a lot of history tonight so you'd be

2266
01:28:33,869 --> 01:28:29,679
proud of them

2267
01:28:35,819 --> 01:28:33,879
okay so grant what's your take on it how

2268
01:28:39,779 --> 01:28:35,829
do you feel about them controlling what

2269
01:28:42,179 --> 01:28:39,789
you and I do on a daily basis you guys

2270
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:42,189
the gold makes the rules this year right

2271
01:28:47,429 --> 01:28:45,010
there right but more more more to the

2272
01:28:49,049 --> 01:28:47,439
point the way I look at it and I think

2273
01:28:51,029 --> 01:28:49,059
Melinda consider back me up I mean I

2274
01:28:52,979 --> 01:28:51,039
know whom the Lind is talking about here

2275
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:52,989
and so I've asked them are these good

2276
01:28:58,049 --> 01:28:55,449
guys or bad guys they're good guys that

2277
01:28:59,699 --> 01:28:58,059
that are facing a situation like even

2278
01:29:01,589 --> 01:28:59,709
even we're carving up their names we're

2279
01:29:03,179 --> 01:29:01,599
coming up their names because we've got

2280
01:29:04,859 --> 01:29:03,189
some justified reason why we are not

2281
01:29:08,189 --> 01:29:04,869
going to name who these people are who

2282
01:29:09,959 --> 01:29:08,199
were talking about and I know these

2283
01:29:11,339 --> 01:29:09,969
people and I think that they're just

2284
01:29:14,129 --> 01:29:11,349
people who are doing the best they can

2285
01:29:15,929 --> 01:29:14,139
with what they've got and and so they're

2286
01:29:19,289 --> 01:29:15,939
manipulating yes but you got to remember

2287
01:29:22,169 --> 01:29:19,299
that there there there the aliens are

2288
01:29:23,639 --> 01:29:22,179
doing exactly the same thing exactly

2289
01:29:24,839 --> 01:29:23,649
they're not disclosing they could land

2290
01:29:26,399 --> 01:29:24,849
on the White House lawn and tell us

2291
01:29:28,079 --> 01:29:26,409
what's going on anytime they want or

2292
01:29:29,849 --> 01:29:28,089
they could cover up they could just turn

2293
01:29:32,549 --> 01:29:29,859
the lights off on the flying saucers and

2294
01:29:34,109 --> 01:29:32,559
quit allowing abductees to remember

2295
01:29:36,929 --> 01:29:34,119
what's going on and stuff like that and

2296
01:29:39,449 --> 01:29:36,939
and just sort of do it you know quietly

2297
01:29:41,250 --> 01:29:39,459
so everybody's doing the cover-up and it

2298
01:29:43,699 --> 01:29:41,260
almost comes down to what kid green did

2299
01:29:46,649 --> 01:29:43,709
and he had an interview when the the

2300
01:29:48,599 --> 01:29:46,659
whatever they call it the Mirage Minh

2301
01:29:50,039 --> 01:29:48,609
did the interview with him and they said

2302
01:29:51,419 --> 01:29:50,049
they were talking about the Sur poll

2303
01:29:52,829 --> 01:29:51,429
taken he said oh no don't throw it sir

2304
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,839
Paul there's classified material in

2305
01:29:56,250 --> 01:29:54,159
there and he said you got to realize

2306
01:29:58,049 --> 01:29:56,260
what would you do if you had to run this

2307
01:30:00,809 --> 01:29:58,059
thing and so I always look at it with

2308
01:30:02,309 --> 01:30:00,819
them is that there guys and we know who

2309
01:30:04,619 --> 01:30:02,319
some of these people are they're friends

2310
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:04,629
of ours who were involved in this and

2311
01:30:07,919 --> 01:30:06,489
they were guys who thought they were

2312
01:30:09,899 --> 01:30:07,929
saving the world they were they were

2313
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:09,909
doing the the best they could and maybe

2314
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:11,199
it was the wrong thing to do maybe it

2315
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:13,449
was the right thing to do but I see

2316
01:30:21,209 --> 01:30:17,169
these people as like and so I would ask

2317
01:30:23,789 --> 01:30:21,219
the question to Lorien what would you do

2318
01:30:25,229 --> 01:30:23,799
if you were at this situation what would

2319
01:30:27,959 --> 01:30:25,239
you do we used to drop the whole thing

2320
01:30:29,010 --> 01:30:27,969
on the public eye I just I'm going to

2321
01:30:30,420 --> 01:30:29,020
say one other quick thing

2322
01:30:34,250 --> 01:30:30,430
about that I'm gonna go back and answer

2323
01:30:41,310 --> 01:30:38,070
God just went out on my head our buddy

2324
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:41,320
in Colorado come on Stan as Stan how he

2325
01:30:46,650 --> 01:30:43,810
feels about this I mean Stan Romanick I

2326
01:30:47,970 --> 01:30:46,660
mean you know you you guys say that all

2327
01:30:54,230 --> 01:30:47,980
these guys are you know doing whatever

2328
01:30:59,760 --> 01:30:57,300
yeah I mean yeah think about it grant i

2329
01:31:02,160 --> 01:30:59,770
I I'm still pissed off that about the

2330
01:31:04,590 --> 01:31:02,170
fact that they retaliate against people

2331
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:04,600
they decide they don't want talking you

2332
01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:06,850
know I mean it's gotta be these guys or

2333
01:31:13,650 --> 01:31:09,550
the guys above them doing that you know

2334
01:31:15,300 --> 01:31:13,660
so okay so yeah okay okay go ahead no I

2335
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:15,310
would just say you got to remember that

2336
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:17,170
I'm a Canadian and you guys dropped two

2337
01:31:21,150 --> 01:31:18,880
atomic bombs and you killed over a

2338
01:31:22,830 --> 01:31:21,160
million people and Iran and and people

2339
01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:22,840
make decisions like that where they say

2340
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:25,300
we got to do this and it's like these

2341
01:31:28,860 --> 01:31:26,560
the story of the dropping the atomic

2342
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:28,870
bombs the the embedded journalist from

2343
01:31:32,970 --> 01:31:31,570
the New York Times wrote and when you

2344
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:32,980
flying back on the plane he said they

2345
01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:33,730
had it coming

2346
01:31:37,740 --> 01:31:35,710
so make people do these decisions but

2347
01:31:39,570 --> 01:31:37,750
they still think that they're saving the

2348
01:31:42,090 --> 01:31:39,580
world they've this guy's out of control

2349
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:42,100
he's got to do this and people there's a

2350
01:31:45,150 --> 01:31:43,360
lot of people in government who will do

2351
01:31:47,010 --> 01:31:45,160
these kind of things the same as

2352
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:47,020
countries will do things that we think

2353
01:31:50,790 --> 01:31:49,210
in Canada are like totally insane like

2354
01:31:53,430 --> 01:31:50,800
what are these grand I think we're at a

2355
01:31:56,820 --> 01:31:53,440
point you know you and I know it matter

2356
01:31:59,280 --> 01:31:56,830
so much about consciousness and that

2357
01:32:01,440 --> 01:31:59,290
part of this ever comes what the

2358
01:32:04,510 --> 01:32:01,450
holidays are almost here but you can

2359
01:32:06,580 --> 01:32:04,520
still treat yourself at Guitar Center

2360
01:32:08,530 --> 01:32:06,590
Fender acoustic electric guitar or a

2361
01:32:12,220 --> 01:32:08,540
Mitchell electric guitar launched back

2362
01:32:14,590 --> 01:32:12,230
with am your choice just 139 plus weakly

2363
01:32:19,410 --> 01:32:14,600
doorbuster deals special financing the

2364
01:32:19,420 --> 01:32:24,000
anywhere else

2365
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:27,370
shopping so hurry in and find yourself

2366
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:30,050
Guitar Center you have to start saying

2367
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:32,810
no you know that this is not acting out

2368
01:32:36,750 --> 01:32:35,210
of higher consciousness I don't know

2369
01:32:40,330 --> 01:32:36,760
guys

2370
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:40,340
we can roll ourselves you can't we can

2371
01:32:47,500 --> 01:32:44,080
yes yes yes I think we can excuse away

2372
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:47,510
bad behavior that is that has had a lot

2373
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:51,910
of very overt criminal activity you know

2374
01:33:00,190 --> 01:32:54,880
you know their their actions have been

2375
01:33:03,010 --> 01:33:00,200
criminal in many ways and and ufology

2376
01:33:05,860 --> 01:33:03,020
has been let around by the nose and lied

2377
01:33:09,790 --> 01:33:05,870
to by these guys and these guys are in

2378
01:33:11,170 --> 01:33:09,800
embedded in ufology in a way that you

2379
01:33:14,260 --> 01:33:11,180
followed you doesn't even know that

2380
01:33:16,690 --> 01:33:14,270
they're being lied to and misled by me

2381
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:16,700
and that one of these primary guys said

2382
01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:18,650
to me we're in it to spin it I mean

2383
01:33:22,630 --> 01:33:20,960
ufology doesn't you know thinks that

2384
01:33:26,350 --> 01:33:22,640
they're best friends with these guys and

2385
01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:26,360
not realizing that this is a problem it

2386
01:33:31,150 --> 01:33:28,490
is a problem these guys have an agenda

2387
01:33:34,090 --> 01:33:31,160
and that agenda is not about the truth

2388
01:33:37,900 --> 01:33:34,100
it's about their version of the truth

2389
01:33:41,260 --> 01:33:37,910
which is either never or so slow so

2390
01:33:44,050 --> 01:33:41,270
deliberate that meanwhile we're on a

2391
01:33:46,150 --> 01:33:44,060
petroleum-based economy and ruining the

2392
01:33:48,700 --> 01:33:46,160
world in a way that we don't need to so

2393
01:33:51,190 --> 01:33:48,710
it's like wait a second no no I think I

2394
01:33:53,860 --> 01:33:51,200
think if you follow G makes excuses for

2395
01:33:55,540 --> 01:33:53,870
these guys it's like oh it's ok we're

2396
01:33:59,080 --> 01:33:55,550
little children we need to be lied to

2397
01:34:03,570 --> 01:33:59,090
that's ok no no it's not ok we've been

2398
01:34:08,110 --> 01:34:03,580
manipulated we've been lied to and and

2399
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:08,120
and and we got to realize that you know

2400
01:34:11,470 --> 01:34:09,410
you thought you know everyone's always

2401
01:34:14,170 --> 01:34:11,480
like over Embedded there's intelligence

2402
01:34:16,540 --> 01:34:14,180
insiders yeah they run some of our

2403
01:34:18,500 --> 01:34:16,550
organizations you know we need to

2404
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:18,510
question that you know we

2405
01:34:23,959 --> 01:34:20,670
to question the motives of these people

2406
01:34:26,359 --> 01:34:23,969
you know and and everyone's glad to have

2407
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:26,369
their little you know I always caught

2408
01:34:30,709 --> 01:34:29,489
like their Swiss Army knife

2409
01:34:32,509 --> 01:34:30,719
you know whistle blow in their back

2410
01:34:34,009 --> 01:34:32,519
pocket their little insider we've all

2411
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:34,019
got our little insider in our back

2412
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:36,239
pocket like you know like that's like

2413
01:34:40,370 --> 01:34:38,010
your your good luck charm or that's your

2414
01:34:42,529 --> 01:34:40,380
e-ticket in or I'm something important

2415
01:34:44,959 --> 01:34:42,539
because I interface with this insider

2416
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:44,969
this whistle and it's like that's enough

2417
01:34:51,020 --> 01:34:49,199
to keep me alive yeah yeah yeah you know

2418
01:34:53,509 --> 01:34:51,030
but but but the point being it's like

2419
01:34:55,779 --> 01:34:53,519
you guys some of these their agendas not

2420
01:34:57,709 --> 01:34:55,789
about the truth it's not about

2421
01:35:00,200 --> 01:34:57,719
disclosing today it's not about

2422
01:35:04,009 --> 01:35:00,210
disclosing in the next 10 years I

2423
01:35:05,629 --> 01:35:04,019
don't think you know it's like we you

2424
01:35:08,779 --> 01:35:05,639
know we pardon my language please look

2425
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:08,789
we have to question this and question

2426
01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:10,800
these guys is involvement I mean I know

2427
01:35:16,580 --> 01:35:14,159
them too and I all sing every name

2428
01:35:18,410 --> 01:35:16,590
except maybe one you know but that's

2429
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:18,420
like cuz I'm currently talking to them

2430
01:35:22,819 --> 01:35:21,449
and I don't want them to be scared away

2431
01:35:25,279 --> 01:35:22,829
from talking to me

2432
01:35:27,919 --> 01:35:25,289
we're just you're justifying it's their

2433
01:35:33,649 --> 01:35:27,929
wives saying they're justified getting

2434
01:35:35,779 --> 01:35:33,659
information from you know they think

2435
01:35:37,580 --> 01:35:35,789
that they're saving the world I say the

2436
01:35:39,339 --> 01:35:37,590
same thing that they they don't none of

2437
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:39,349
these guys think they're bad guys I

2438
01:35:43,459 --> 01:35:41,489
think we have to do this we've got to

2439
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:43,469
shut down Romanick we've got to shut

2440
01:35:49,220 --> 01:35:46,400
down Benowitz we've this guy's

2441
01:35:50,779 --> 01:35:49,230
experiencing the fact that there's UFOs

2442
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:50,789
or the nuclear weapons storage area and

2443
01:35:55,549 --> 01:35:53,280
you're manipulated on everything that

2444
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:55,559
ever happens you're like people are

2445
01:36:02,959 --> 01:35:57,840
sheeples everything that they do they

2446
01:36:06,229 --> 01:36:02,969
manipulate you on it's not just UFOs but

2447
01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:06,239
again I think I think we're not just I

2448
01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:09,360
think we're justifying bad behavior that

2449
01:36:14,959 --> 01:36:11,280
is not about the truth it's not about

2450
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:14,969
informing people now and and you know

2451
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:18,000
and and I saw though do you do on trick

2452
01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:20,159
these grand ground if we do that you

2453
01:36:27,140 --> 01:36:24,780
know I just think I just I mean as far

2454
01:36:29,660 --> 01:36:27,150
as as far as there being a 40-year

2455
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:29,670
disclosure plan or 50 or whatever the

2456
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:32,400
hell it is I'm I guess that makes sense

2457
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:33,600
I know where you're going with that

2458
01:36:37,850 --> 01:36:35,760
argument I guess that make sense but I'm

2459
01:36:42,700 --> 01:36:37,860
saying this to the degree that you

2460
01:36:46,340 --> 01:36:42,710
follow G is manipulated and spun and

2461
01:36:48,380 --> 01:36:46,350
people put out a commission or are given

2462
01:36:51,950 --> 01:36:48,390
attention when it's useful you know and

2463
01:36:53,810 --> 01:36:51,960
and ufology need to know it's being used

2464
01:36:59,570 --> 01:36:53,820
and manipulated and be more aware of

2465
01:37:03,830 --> 01:36:59,580
that and anyway so that I guess that's

2466
01:37:06,919 --> 01:37:03,840
my point so what would you do your turn

2467
01:37:09,919 --> 01:37:06,929
you're in charge okay you get to you get

2468
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:09,929
to go to stand and have a beat now we

2469
01:37:16,189 --> 01:37:12,210
have to put these guys cease fire and we

2470
01:37:19,130 --> 01:37:16,199
say you know we have to hold them to to

2471
01:37:20,510 --> 01:37:19,140
the truth and we have to question what

2472
01:37:23,689 --> 01:37:20,520
they've done in their past and their

2473
01:37:26,060 --> 01:37:23,699
backgrounds and and demand more from

2474
01:37:27,260 --> 01:37:26,070
them or kick them out of you follow but

2475
01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:27,270
you're the brother which would you

2476
01:37:31,220 --> 01:37:29,190
expose over always no I'm not trying to

2477
01:37:36,890 --> 01:37:31,230
up at 40-year disclosure plan that's

2478
01:37:38,419 --> 01:37:36,900
that's grants asking you if you were the

2479
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:38,429
President of the United States what

2480
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:41,760
would you do would you expose I I

2481
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:43,110
wouldn't be the president because I just

2482
01:37:48,140 --> 01:37:46,800
quote - easy answer you would you would

2483
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:48,150
disclose all the people that were killed

2484
01:37:51,500 --> 01:37:50,159
and what you did and and take

2485
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:51,510
responsibility for all the stuff that

2486
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:55,050
happens yeah yeah because I think that's

2487
01:37:59,680 --> 01:37:57,330
at the human race we have to start doing

2488
01:38:03,560 --> 01:37:59,690
that otherwise just I to living in lies

2489
01:38:05,660 --> 01:38:03,570
yeah I just living life the lies how to

2490
01:38:07,490 --> 01:38:05,670
stop somewhere and it's got stuff with

2491
01:38:09,649 --> 01:38:07,500
someone having the balls to speak the

2492
01:38:10,970 --> 01:38:09,659
truth and take the consequences but it's

2493
01:38:12,770 --> 01:38:10,980
like you have you've had 14

2494
01:38:14,689 --> 01:38:12,780
administration's seven Republican seven

2495
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:14,699
Democrat and it's sort of like you know

2496
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:18,000
we're not keeping the truth because I

2497
01:38:21,290 --> 01:38:19,110
don't think you can handle they're

2498
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:21,300
keeping the truth from you for financial

2499
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:22,770
reasons because they're profiting from

2500
01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:25,650
it for milt no one month their little

2501
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:28,409
black project to die no one wants their

2502
01:38:33,979 --> 01:38:30,810
underground bases to go around go away

2503
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:33,989
and there's its million dollars United

2504
01:38:37,939 --> 01:38:35,370
States is young country it does this

2505
01:38:39,919 --> 01:38:37,949
it's all military it's about separation

2506
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:39,929
it's belief that there's evil people out

2507
01:38:43,310 --> 01:38:41,850
there and we can't give the technology

2508
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:43,320
to the evil people and they actually

2509
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:45,090
need this crap they actually believe

2510
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:50,430
no joke no joke is the good

2511
01:38:55,710 --> 01:38:52,330
old-fashioned military-industrial

2512
01:38:58,140 --> 01:38:55,720
complex or the attitude just the

2513
01:39:00,240 --> 01:38:58,150
American attitude like Canada we are now

2514
01:39:01,980 --> 01:39:00,250
the bad guys we're trying to steal all

2515
01:39:04,140 --> 01:39:01,990
your jobs and we're gonna shut down

2516
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:04,150
NAFTA and and we're the bad guys and

2517
01:39:07,770 --> 01:39:05,650
it's just this bad guy thing all the

2518
01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:07,780
time and we've gotta protected all this

2519
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:09,430
stuff from the bad guys and everybody

2520
01:39:14,340 --> 01:39:11,650
buys into it why do you have like the

2521
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:14,350
700 billion dollar defense budget

2522
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:15,520
everybody goes along with it because

2523
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:17,110
everybody's playing the fear card

2524
01:39:21,690 --> 01:39:19,450
everybody's so scared that you know that

2525
01:39:23,940 --> 01:39:21,700
there's a bad Chinese and the bad Arabs

2526
01:39:26,700 --> 01:39:23,950
and the this North Korean we all and and

2527
01:39:28,140 --> 01:39:26,710
Loreen will love this is all about the

2528
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:28,150
mind control because it's really all

2529
01:39:36,060 --> 01:39:34,690
about privacy that s'what America is

2530
01:39:38,190 --> 01:39:36,070
about forget about corporate profit it's

2531
01:39:42,890 --> 01:39:38,200
all about material in the United States

2532
01:39:57,300 --> 01:39:55,590
Canada clothing yeah but he would

2533
01:39:59,850 --> 01:39:57,310
currently in the position now that is

2534
01:40:02,130 --> 01:39:59,860
now that his voice doesn't matter you

2535
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:02,140
know yeah I didn't even know anything I

2536
01:40:07,650 --> 01:40:04,090
knew him in the in the 70s he told me

2537
01:40:08,910 --> 01:40:07,660
clearly he was busy milk mating the the

2538
01:40:11,340 --> 01:40:08,920
Armed Forces he didn't know what was

2539
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:11,350
going on it was only when when his son

2540
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:13,210
came his son-in-law came to him and said

2541
01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:14,650
we wait we're reading that stupid book

2542
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:16,600
on Corso 4 and he said what do you mean

2543
01:40:20,730 --> 01:40:18,370
and then the son was working for this

2544
01:40:22,590 --> 01:40:20,740
general and the general said tell your

2545
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:22,600
did your father and a lot of phone me

2546
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:24,400
any phones and that's when the general

2547
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:26,110
said it's all real and more that's when

2548
01:40:33,420 --> 01:40:28,570
say he suddenly found Jesus and started

2549
01:40:34,050 --> 01:40:33,430
running down here then he did ok now

2550
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:34,060
wait a minute

2551
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:37,810
I talked to Paul at the at the 2015 and

2552
01:40:42,750 --> 01:40:40,570
MUFON conference in LA Paul basically

2553
01:40:44,970 --> 01:40:42,760
told me said Lori and I had a sighting I

2554
01:40:47,190 --> 01:40:44,980
was out at the cabin and the UFO came

2555
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:47,200
over the lake and you know who knows

2556
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:49,630
what they did to him oh yeah he believes

2557
01:40:53,970 --> 01:40:51,520
I'm not know that when was the sighting

2558
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:53,980
easy contactee let's put it that way I'm

2559
01:40:58,410 --> 01:40:56,890
pretty sure yeah but he but he didn't

2560
01:40:59,720 --> 01:40:58,420
have any interest until he was reading

2561
01:41:01,100 --> 01:40:59,730
the course a book and

2562
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:01,110
that angrily didn't have any interest in

2563
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:03,570
UFOs because I confronted him I had this

2564
01:41:08,660 --> 01:41:05,370
situation where I was in Washington DC

2565
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:08,670
where he said I need to talk to you and

2566
01:41:13,580 --> 01:41:10,530
I had he had put out the story that he

2567
01:41:15,470 --> 01:41:13,590
had done this famous lecture in 1967 in

2568
01:41:17,330 --> 01:41:15,480
st. Paul Alberta reopened the UFO

2569
01:41:19,130 --> 01:41:17,340
landing base for this Centennial project

2570
01:41:20,810 --> 01:41:19,140
this town but it built a UFO landing

2571
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:20,820
base and he gives a speech and then he

2572
01:41:25,190 --> 01:41:23,280
said oh it was the it was the Royal

2573
01:41:26,660 --> 01:41:25,200
Canadian Mounted Police guy who gave him

2574
01:41:28,130 --> 01:41:26,670
the information and he could remember

2575
01:41:30,290 --> 01:41:28,140
the guy his name and I put on my website

2576
01:41:31,940 --> 01:41:30,300
I said oh come on I mean this the top

2577
01:41:34,370 --> 01:41:31,950
expert on the opposing ten-member the

2578
01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:34,380
guy's name and so he that's when he said

2579
01:41:36,590 --> 01:41:35,430
I want to have breakfast with you and he

2580
01:41:38,630 --> 01:41:36,600
comes down with these files under his

2581
01:41:41,090 --> 01:41:38,640
arm and he said mr. Kramer are many

2582
01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:41,100
things one of them is I'm not a liar and

2583
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:42,450
I go holy what they say you know

2584
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:44,400
and I realized what I said and they said

2585
01:41:49,310 --> 01:41:47,520
I I did not even write that speech

2586
01:41:51,170 --> 01:41:49,320
someone wrote it for me I don't even

2587
01:41:53,180 --> 01:41:51,180
remember giving the speech and so it was

2588
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:53,190
I was confronting him on this thing that

2589
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:54,690
he had given this speech that said that

2590
01:41:59,630 --> 01:41:56,370
the Canadians are open to base for you

2591
01:42:01,610 --> 01:41:59,640
opposed to land in 1954 but after 54 the

2592
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:01,620
Canadians are just saluting they're just

2593
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:03,570
handing it off to the Americans the same

2594
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,130
as most other countries are handing it

2595
01:42:08,780 --> 01:42:07,440
off the Canadian people always ask me

2596
01:42:12,340 --> 01:42:08,790
what's going on cat I said I've got the

2597
01:42:14,900 --> 01:42:12,350
foggiest notion what's going on cat No

2598
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:14,910
thank God for all the leaks from the Tom

2599
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:16,800
DeLonge groups down here we could just

2600
01:42:25,729 --> 01:42:24,050
leaks like there are no leaks in Canada

2601
01:42:27,710 --> 01:42:25,739
there are no whistleblowers running

2602
01:42:30,380 --> 01:42:27,720
around and leaked documents and Sam in

2603
01:42:31,700 --> 01:42:30,390
Europe and Australia the United States

2604
01:42:33,380 --> 01:42:31,710
of America is the only place that this

2605
01:42:35,690 --> 01:42:33,390
happens where you have you know Tom

2606
01:42:37,610 --> 01:42:35,700
DeLonge and all these you know Avery and

2607
01:42:39,380 --> 01:42:37,620
and then they start the aquarium Dan

2608
01:42:40,820 --> 01:42:39,390
Smith starts the aquarium so when it

2609
01:42:43,580 --> 01:42:40,830
came down we started the the thing with

2610
01:42:45,170 --> 01:42:43,590
cats so we all we all called cats and I

2611
01:42:46,729 --> 01:42:45,180
was that I was a pretty cat and there

2612
01:42:48,380 --> 01:42:46,739
was you know it was a stray cat and they

2613
01:42:50,630 --> 01:42:48,390
all they didn't really nuts I mean they

2614
01:42:52,700 --> 01:42:50,640
were playing these stupid games but the

2615
01:42:53,870 --> 01:42:52,710
United States is the the one place it

2616
01:42:56,420 --> 01:42:53,880
seems like they control this whole

2617
01:42:58,760 --> 01:42:56,430
phenomena but it's always the sort of

2618
01:43:00,320 --> 01:42:58,770
the the military is running the show and

2619
01:43:10,010 --> 01:43:00,330
you may you may have said something

2620
01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:12,670
[Applause]

2621
01:43:16,340 --> 01:43:13,920
okay

2622
01:43:19,010 --> 01:43:16,350
you may have you may have have said it

2623
01:43:24,490 --> 01:43:19,020
right there that the u.s. controls it

2624
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:24,500
and it could be that it because of the

2625
01:43:29,900 --> 01:43:26,400
weather it was the biggest military

2626
01:43:35,870 --> 01:43:29,910
worldwide at the time what was you know

2627
01:43:37,550 --> 01:43:35,880
or the the money was there or or the

2628
01:43:41,450 --> 01:43:37,560
intelligence because it started with

2629
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:41,460
naval intelligence that it could have

2630
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:47,810
been when there was a worldwide decision

2631
01:43:54,290 --> 01:43:52,290
to keep the lid on this and to

2632
01:43:56,660 --> 01:43:54,300
investigate it further and develop the

2633
01:44:00,200 --> 01:43:56,670
technology and do the crash retrievals

2634
01:44:03,979 --> 01:44:00,210
etc etc that it fall under fell under US

2635
01:44:06,860 --> 01:44:03,989
jurisdiction I think there's some

2636
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:06,870
history mythology you know to show that

2637
01:44:13,820 --> 01:44:09,690
now I would need to ask someone else

2638
01:44:16,340 --> 01:44:13,830
museology exactly maybe why that was but

2639
01:44:18,410 --> 01:44:16,350
I probably just touched on some of it

2640
01:44:20,450 --> 01:44:18,420
whether we have the intelligence

2641
01:44:22,459 --> 01:44:20,460
apparatus in place or the biggest

2642
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:22,469
military whatever we're talking back in

2643
01:44:28,430 --> 01:44:26,090
like the 30s and 40s when it when the

2644
01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:28,440
jurisdiction for management of this

2645
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:31,920
either was assumed by the US are handed

2646
01:44:37,250 --> 01:44:34,290
to the US by the rest of the world I am

2647
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:37,260
because I can tell you right now it was

2648
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:40,560
never handed to the US the u.s. decided

2649
01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:42,330
they were going to manage it it's that

2650
01:44:50,930 --> 01:44:44,310
simple and they put everybody else

2651
01:44:52,610 --> 01:44:50,940
seemed to go along with it you know okay

2652
01:44:54,620 --> 01:44:52,620
okay this is my point

2653
01:44:56,930 --> 01:44:54,630
yeah but I'm gonna say one more thing I

2654
01:44:59,419 --> 01:44:56,940
believe that the u.s. also said if we

2655
01:45:02,000 --> 01:44:59,429
get anything out of this we will also

2656
01:45:05,419 --> 01:45:02,010
give you a piece of small sliver of the

2657
01:45:10,419 --> 01:45:05,429
pie of technology if we do get anything

2658
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:10,429
you know probably field made you know

2659
01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:14,010
with NATO I mean the Isis runs near it's

2660
01:45:18,260 --> 01:45:16,080
like every report to them and you get to

2661
01:45:20,419 --> 01:45:18,270
you know the spin off and we get to

2662
01:45:24,260 --> 01:45:20,429
protect you and this whole operation

2663
01:45:25,939 --> 01:45:24,270
where it's a convenient way that it's

2664
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:25,949
operated I think the Russians are

2665
01:45:28,910 --> 01:45:27,449
working independent and the

2666
01:45:30,830 --> 01:45:28,920
these are working independent but but

2667
01:45:32,990 --> 01:45:30,840
for the for the sort of the free world

2668
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:33,000
the the Western world I think it's

2669
01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:35,130
basically you can even see with with the

2670
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:39,510
this the case in Bolivia with the with

2671
01:45:43,130 --> 01:45:41,040
the aliens the live aliens where they

2672
01:45:45,110 --> 01:45:43,140
come walking in there and they say

2673
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:45,120
brigate will allow a Brazilian on the

2674
01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:47,040
space shuttle and they walk off with the

2675
01:45:51,470 --> 01:45:49,440
body the live aliens and the craft and

2676
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:51,480
the whole bit that that there's all

2677
01:45:55,490 --> 01:45:53,250
these quid pro Crowe that you can put a

2678
01:45:56,689 --> 01:45:55,500
lot of pressure on a country and say

2679
01:45:58,340 --> 01:45:56,699
we're gonna come up this we're going to

2680
01:46:00,200 --> 01:45:58,350
cut off that and everybody just goes

2681
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:00,210
along with it because it's almost like

2682
01:46:03,709 --> 01:46:02,250
the people it's easier just to let

2683
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:03,719
someone else run the thing rather than

2684
01:46:09,530 --> 01:46:06,570
doing it yourself yes I think it's safe

2685
01:46:11,959 --> 01:46:09,540
to say that that's that that's what

2686
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,969
happened so so whether the u.s. assumed

2687
01:46:16,939 --> 01:46:14,400
its autonomy combination but that they

2688
01:46:19,010 --> 01:46:16,949
that they have been running it and

2689
01:46:25,729 --> 01:46:19,020
everyone else's answers to them about

2690
01:46:28,010 --> 01:46:25,739
this you know it manok we it shows to to

2691
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:28,020
some degree if you guys step back and

2692
01:46:33,410 --> 01:46:29,370
you go oh wait a second if they've been

2693
01:46:36,650 --> 01:46:33,420
doing that from the get-go a lot of this

2694
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:36,660
oh well you know cold war with Russia

2695
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:39,570
and you know cold war with China and you

2696
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:41,280
know is every is all just smoke and

2697
01:46:45,470 --> 01:46:43,679
mirrors because you realize well wait a

2698
01:46:47,959 --> 01:46:45,480
second they've been answering to us all

2699
01:46:50,290 --> 01:46:47,969
along on these bigger subjects you know

2700
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:50,300
and the rest of that just becomes

2701
01:46:57,620 --> 01:46:53,250
literally as the hand puppets in a play

2702
01:46:59,900 --> 01:46:57,630
for you know so that you look back

2703
01:47:02,450 --> 01:46:59,910
military actions with money and you know

2704
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:02,460
blah blah but so you know in it and it

2705
01:47:08,870 --> 01:47:04,290
just helps you realize how it really

2706
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:08,880
works you know and and I'm not saying I

2707
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:11,280
agree with any of it it's just it seems

2708
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:14,130
to be just the way it is though well you

2709
01:47:20,780 --> 01:47:16,050
are going to ask you something grant oh

2710
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:20,790
go ahead I'm gonna and switch in subject

2711
01:47:28,100 --> 01:47:23,850
just a little bit all of a sudden it

2712
01:47:31,939 --> 01:47:28,110
seems like you know DoDEA Richard or

2713
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:31,949
Rick Doty is out there and I jokingly

2714
01:47:36,410 --> 01:47:34,050
say he's not quite singing like in in

2715
01:47:38,810 --> 01:47:36,420
canary but he is coming like this money

2716
01:47:40,700 --> 01:47:38,820
you know and so why is he out there

2717
01:47:42,530 --> 01:47:40,710
humming like a canary I'm one

2718
01:47:44,270 --> 01:47:42,540
you know I mean obviously he's a member

2719
01:47:47,090 --> 01:47:44,280
this group always has been

2720
01:47:49,610 --> 01:47:47,100
it seems to be different then yeah the

2721
01:47:52,270 --> 01:47:49,620
the hold along IDs and what's going on

2722
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:52,280
there at the same time you've got the

2723
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:54,960
remnants of the Rockefeller initiative

2724
01:47:59,150 --> 01:47:56,970
stuff going on you certainly got a

2725
01:48:01,610 --> 01:47:59,160
resurface I'm hearing firma jizz name

2726
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:01,620
come up again and yeah this or whatever

2727
01:48:05,630 --> 01:48:03,360
the new incarnation of that's going to

2728
01:48:07,310 --> 01:48:05,640
be you know and so obviously these guys

2729
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:07,320
have their hands and a couple different

2730
01:48:14,330 --> 01:48:11,970
pots at once but Dodi seems like while

2731
01:48:16,340 --> 01:48:14,340
he's saying I'm I'm I'm saying these

2732
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:16,350
things on behalf of these guys that he's

2733
01:48:21,380 --> 01:48:19,110
not saying I'm going against them but he

2734
01:48:25,010 --> 01:48:21,390
seems to be kind of like this loan guy

2735
01:48:27,230 --> 01:48:25,020
out there and I'm like you know I just

2736
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:27,240
find it curious who green-lighted dhoti

2737
01:48:31,340 --> 01:48:29,280
to suddenly be yapping about this and

2738
01:48:33,110 --> 01:48:31,350
then he's also been saying in recent

2739
01:48:35,810 --> 01:48:33,120
interviews well I've been saying all

2740
01:48:37,490 --> 01:48:35,820
this stuff all along well no it's too

2741
01:48:40,010 --> 01:48:37,500
sudden you're getting a tremendous

2742
01:48:41,540 --> 01:48:40,020
amount of attention for it or if you

2743
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:41,550
were saying you were singing it on the

2744
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:44,370
down-low but you know it just seems like

2745
01:48:49,370 --> 01:48:46,650
it's there's suddenly he's out there a

2746
01:48:51,890 --> 01:48:49,380
bunch and and on the increase and I just

2747
01:48:53,660 --> 01:48:51,900
wanting what your thoughts on I mean I

2748
01:48:56,270 --> 01:48:53,670
guess I answered my own question is just

2749
01:48:59,120 --> 01:48:56,280
it's just part of it and it's part of

2750
01:49:00,940 --> 01:48:59,130
the the soft disclosure but it's just

2751
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:00,950
interesting it seems like he was

2752
01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:03,450
definitely green-lighted from where oh

2753
01:49:06,590 --> 01:49:04,560
absolutely

2754
01:49:08,690 --> 01:49:06,600
as I said this is areas talking about

2755
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:08,700
Tom DeLonge there are six operations

2756
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:10,320
going on at this very present I was

2757
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:12,330
offered an in on one of the operations

2758
01:49:17,420 --> 01:49:14,730
and one of them was this operation with

2759
01:49:19,850 --> 01:49:17,430
this documentary thing in Hollywood with

2760
01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:19,860
six parts and they were gonna do the a

2761
01:49:25,790 --> 01:49:22,470
the Avery and and Collins was involved

2762
01:49:27,950 --> 01:49:25,800
and they went and interviewed Richard

2763
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:27,960
Doty they were interviewed Bigelow the

2764
01:49:31,010 --> 01:49:29,940
interviewed firm itch and and all these

2765
01:49:33,530 --> 01:49:31,020
names that I heard that they're

2766
01:49:38,140 --> 01:49:33,540
interviewing and so it's it's one of the

2767
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:38,150
disclosures that he's maybe Pandolfi has

2768
01:49:42,140 --> 01:49:40,770
sort of green-lighted all these

2769
01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:42,150
different things he's very close friends

2770
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:44,880
with Kate green and KITT green tells

2771
01:49:49,310 --> 01:49:47,010
this famous story that right that that

2772
01:49:51,530 --> 01:49:49,320
Dodi passed the lie detector test after

2773
01:49:53,330 --> 01:49:51,540
a UFO cover-up live the day after in the

2774
01:49:54,359 --> 01:49:53,340
counterintelligence this famous story

2775
01:49:57,030 --> 01:49:54,369
that that

2776
01:49:59,129 --> 01:49:57,040
big with the guys that wrote wrote the

2777
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:59,139
Roswell report stormed out of the office

2778
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:01,599
where kid green was saying he had passed

2779
01:50:06,629 --> 01:50:04,570
this lie-detector test and then the kid

2780
01:50:08,189 --> 01:50:06,639
green also tells the story that that he

2781
01:50:09,390 --> 01:50:08,199
had this very secret meeting with Helms

2782
01:50:11,220 --> 01:50:09,400
I don't if you ever heard this story

2783
01:50:12,899 --> 01:50:11,230
it's very secret and he got the codeword

2784
01:50:14,790 --> 01:50:12,909
wrong he was give this code word and

2785
01:50:16,950 --> 01:50:14,800
that Helms told him believe everything

2786
01:50:19,050 --> 01:50:16,960
Richard Doty tells you on UFOs so this

2787
01:50:21,930 --> 01:50:19,060
whole thing is is is Richard Doty the

2788
01:50:24,450 --> 01:50:21,940
bad guy that he that everybody sort of

2789
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:24,460
made him out to be or is he a guy that

2790
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:26,170
is playing a role he's always played

2791
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:28,480
this role and when I heard him do that

2792
01:50:32,879 --> 01:50:29,650
an interview that y'all weren't happy

2793
01:50:35,399 --> 01:50:32,889
interview with Steven Greer and I talked

2794
01:50:37,020 --> 01:50:35,409
to the producer of Steven Greer saying

2795
01:50:38,399 --> 01:50:37,030
and they said oh we made him confess and

2796
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,409
it's like what that's not what I heard

2797
01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:40,480
when I heard him talking and some of the

2798
01:50:44,189 --> 01:50:41,980
stuff that Dodi was saying in there was

2799
01:50:45,660 --> 01:50:44,199
stuff that only I knew this very secret

2800
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:45,670
meeting they had had in the Midwest

2801
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:48,400
before UFO cover-up live where the

2802
01:50:51,839 --> 01:50:50,110
producer for UFO cover-up life was so

2803
01:50:53,550 --> 01:50:51,849
scared he thought he was gonna die he

2804
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:53,560
suddenly all these high-level people and

2805
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:55,210
they're on this lake and they're this

2806
01:50:58,260 --> 01:50:57,130
bizarre meeting that takes place in the

2807
01:50:59,609 --> 01:50:58,270
middle of the night and stuff like that

2808
01:51:01,800 --> 01:50:59,619
and dodi's talking about this meeting

2809
01:51:03,419 --> 01:51:01,810
I'm going like wow this meeting actually

2810
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:03,429
didn't take place so I start hearing

2811
01:51:06,959 --> 01:51:05,170
Dodie and I'm thinking he actually

2812
01:51:08,700 --> 01:51:06,969
sounded a lot better I fought with him

2813
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:08,710
in the 1980s I thought he was this big

2814
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:10,690
counterintelligence you know bad guy

2815
01:51:14,879 --> 01:51:12,250
type thing and I'm thinking well maybe

2816
01:51:16,649 --> 01:51:14,889
he's actually playing his role that they

2817
01:51:18,510 --> 01:51:16,659
brought him back out yeah that they're

2818
01:51:20,339 --> 01:51:18,520
there because to me it's all been

2819
01:51:21,689 --> 01:51:20,349
initiated in the last two years there's

2820
01:51:24,300 --> 01:51:21,699
no doubt in last two years this thing

2821
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:24,310
has spiraled unbelievably out of control

2822
01:51:28,979 --> 01:51:26,650
and it happened when when Barack Obama

2823
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:28,989
gave an interview to GQ magazine and

2824
01:51:33,149 --> 01:51:31,420
that's when he said the UFO FILES are

2825
01:51:34,229 --> 01:51:33,159
not as top secret as you think they are

2826
01:51:35,850 --> 01:51:34,239
and when a president talks about

2827
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:35,860
something it's green-lighted it's

2828
01:51:40,830 --> 01:51:38,050
Declassified and this thing gave it the

2829
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:40,840
green light and there's all I just for

2830
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:43,330
me it's our to our the stuff that is

2831
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:45,250
breaking it's unbelievable the stuff

2832
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:47,110
that that's that's coming out I've never

2833
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:48,010
seen anything like it

2834
01:51:55,290 --> 01:51:53,290
unbelievable yeah like you were saying

2835
01:51:57,209 --> 01:51:55,300
you know something is greenlight and

2836
01:51:59,939 --> 01:51:57,219
they're moving the ball further down the

2837
01:52:07,650 --> 01:51:59,949
field it's it's not disclosure but it's

2838
01:52:11,370 --> 01:52:07,660
it's I totally agree with you

2839
01:52:13,980 --> 01:52:11,380
and it plays right into my whole concept

2840
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:13,990
of that it's all a mind control arm that

2841
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:15,760
they started they said well let's see

2842
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:18,250
how how gullible these people are Monica

2843
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:22,690
don't believe you know oh yeah exactly

2844
01:52:28,050 --> 01:52:25,360
commercials and TV and and yeah and how

2845
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:28,060
they spin the news and and and the idea

2846
01:52:34,530 --> 01:52:30,130
that we need more more and and

2847
01:52:36,060 --> 01:52:34,540
everything is is people are totally you

2848
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:36,070
know she polls they're just following

2849
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:38,410
along there's they're easily manipulated

2850
01:52:41,730 --> 01:52:40,000
they don't pay attention everybody's

2851
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:41,740
busy you know trying to make a living

2852
01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:44,890
nobody's watching nobody just go along

2853
01:52:49,290 --> 01:52:46,870
with it I mean you see what goes on in

2854
01:52:51,180 --> 01:52:49,300
the world and you just like wow I know

2855
01:52:52,980 --> 01:52:51,190
if you if you pay attention for five

2856
01:52:58,110 --> 01:52:52,990
minutes a day you get depressed so long

2857
01:53:00,270 --> 01:52:58,120
that you can't get out of bed I the way

2858
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:00,280
I look at Ellen like this I look at it

2859
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:02,650
it doesn't matter whether it's all true

2860
01:53:06,810 --> 01:53:04,810
whether it's all bad whether it's all

2861
01:53:07,530 --> 01:53:06,820
good really doesn't matter it's not with

2862
01:53:10,350 --> 01:53:07,540
cards

2863
01:53:12,900 --> 01:53:10,360
you you are Delta it's how you play your

2864
01:53:15,210 --> 01:53:12,910
cards so whether it's it turns out all

2865
01:53:16,650 --> 01:53:15,220
to be really bad stuff you and I still

2866
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:16,660
have to live our lives and we have to do

2867
01:53:20,370 --> 01:53:18,850
a we wanted will we think is right and

2868
01:53:22,290 --> 01:53:20,380
that's all we can do we can't really

2869
01:53:23,970 --> 01:53:22,300
control what other people are doing

2870
01:53:30,300 --> 01:53:23,980
because it's all about what cards are

2871
01:53:35,480 --> 01:53:30,310
dealt to us that's when the show's gonna

2872
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:37,830
you guys probably touched upon this

2873
01:53:42,450 --> 01:53:40,210
before I got on but you know there the

2874
01:53:45,030 --> 01:53:42,460
current interest in this group is very

2875
01:53:47,970 --> 01:53:45,040
much focused also not only on the

2876
01:53:52,230 --> 01:53:47,980
technology but also on abdic T's and

2877
01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:52,240
their genetics their DNA and their

2878
01:53:57,180 --> 01:53:55,510
abilities and I'm not sure grant if you

2879
01:53:59,940 --> 01:53:57,190
covered that before I got on but that's

2880
01:54:01,920 --> 01:53:59,950
a big part of their interest as well but

2881
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:01,930
I contacted them in they absolutely will

2882
01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:04,960
not I had very high-level people who

2883
01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:07,360
offered to help they are not talking

2884
01:54:16,230 --> 01:54:10,870
there that's it's released out but but

2885
01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:16,240
they're not talking about it so ya know

2886
01:54:20,610 --> 01:54:18,400
my big theory about this whole thing is

2887
01:54:21,540 --> 01:54:20,620
it goes back to I always thought it's

2888
01:54:23,670 --> 01:54:21,550
all connected

2889
01:54:25,590 --> 01:54:23,680
it goes back and I keep fighting the JFK

2890
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:25,600
thing but I'm telling you guys that's

2891
01:54:28,590 --> 01:54:27,250
when they really ramped it up is when

2892
01:54:30,480 --> 01:54:28,600
they realized they can kill the

2893
01:54:33,180 --> 01:54:30,490
President of the United States and cover

2894
01:54:35,670 --> 01:54:33,190
it up they knew they had the UFO thing

2895
01:54:38,330 --> 01:54:35,680
down to a science by them you know it's

2896
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:38,340
just that there's no way that these guys

2897
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:41,410
haven't been in the game for a very long

2898
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:44,170
time and I'm still gonna bring this out

2899
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:47,440
I don't like the fact that they're we

2900
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:49,840
still have the dark underbelly of these

2901
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:52,960
guys running around hurting people in

2902
01:54:59,100 --> 01:54:54,850
our community and getting away with it

2903
01:55:02,280 --> 01:54:59,110
that bothers me mentally you know you

2904
01:55:07,140 --> 01:55:02,290
know a lot has been done to keep these

2905
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:07,150
secrets without a doubt yeah exactly

2906
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:09,760
that's right that's true grant goes back

2907
01:55:15,180 --> 01:55:11,920
to every secret that we've ever since

2908
01:55:17,910 --> 01:55:15,190
Egyptian people justified like the 2,000

2909
01:55:19,980 --> 01:55:17,920
civilians killed and or Pandolf he talks

2910
01:55:22,110 --> 01:55:19,990
about the bombing of Iraq and a couple

2911
01:55:24,690 --> 01:55:22,120
months ago 40,000 people killed EP

2912
01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:24,700
called a genocide so I mean people are

2913
01:55:28,410 --> 01:55:26,800
justified you get one guy who decides we

2914
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:28,420
got to do this to save the world and

2915
01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:30,010
everybody just salutes and goes along

2916
01:55:47,580 --> 01:55:45,280
with it yeah it's true you're gone thank

2917
01:55:49,890 --> 01:55:47,590
you all for being with us and thank you

2918
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:49,900
Melinda and grant thank you as always

2919
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:52,570
and we'll see you next week and I got

2920
01:55:56,580 --> 01:55:54,250
something special cooking up for you I

2921
01:55:58,290 --> 01:55:56,590
got a friend John is gonna be with me

2922
01:56:00,030 --> 01:55:58,300
and he's an experiencer so you guys are

2923
01:56:02,310 --> 01:56:00,040
gonna have lots of fun so we'll see you

2924
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:02,320
next week on the California MUFON radio

2925
01:56:17,190 --> 01:56:15,280
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01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:20,449
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